Are all coatings SAFE? - Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board

MacS · 12-21-2006, 09:28 AM

To all of you who "thought" that once all the solvents evaporated and the coatings were cured, that made all the coatings 100% safe.

Well, here is something to think about.

Don't beleive everything you hear or read, just because its in print that don't make it true.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07043.html

Jediscroller · 12-21-2006, 10:00 AM

Well, at least this proves modern coatings are safe otherwise every piece of furniture made would be recalled. Lead has been illegal as an additive for over 30 years.

MacS · 12-21-2006, 01:33 PM

if all coatings were tested then I would agree, coatings are not tested, and manufacturers want to keep it that way.

Do you realalize how many new finishing products were developed in the last 30 years that are being used in all the coatings being used in finishing today.

Did you know, that only banned solvents and chemicals cannot be used, but if the solvent or the chemical has not been tested, it can be used until it has been tested which can take years and years. That is why, no one makes waves and they don't want their coatings tested.

That coating with the "lead" was coating their furnitnure since 2002 they first got caught in 2006, the solvent had evaperated and it was all cured, but it was not safe was it!

They talk about "encapsalation" inside the coating, it didn't make this coating safe, did it.

chrispuzzle · 12-21-2006, 02:06 PM

I don't make a habit of biting my furniture, of course, but Mac, your posts on this subject seem to suggest that nobody should ever use any finish on anything, in case it contains some as yet undiscovered poison.

I'm sure that's not what you mean. So what should we do, if we're not supposed to believe what we read or follow what other people say?

workin for wood · 12-21-2006, 03:31 PM

yikes...I'm boycotting the finish section from my daily reading..it gets to serious for a clown like me.

lucky788scroller · 12-22-2006, 03:22 AM

ummm Bill Y. My question... Why such a blatant personal attack on a public forum. You especially of all people should know better!!! Dale

bearfretworks · 12-22-2006, 03:30 AM

Come on folks.

LET's VOLUNTARILY LOCK THIS THREAD until the mods wake up and do their thing.

Personal attacks are unaceptable. STOP IT NOW, PLEASE.

Let this be the last post here!!!!! No more post to this thread....please.

lucky788scroller · 12-22-2006, 03:41 AM

I agree Barry!!! Dale

CanadianScroller · 12-22-2006, 04:22 AM

I have locked the thread and removed some of the comments.
The comments are in tact and can be restored.
This will depend on the other moderators.
I have had two notifications of complaints about the threads.

None of this is in the best interest of the forum and the members.
While you may have agreed or disagreed with the comments posted, we cannot tolerate any public bashing of any of our members.

If you have any issues about what I have done please feel free to email me.

Respectfully Carl Hird-Rutter

12-21-2006, 09:28 AM	#1
MacS Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 770	Are all coatings SAFE? To all of you who "thought" that once all the solvents evaporated and the coatings were cured, that made all the coatings 100% safe. Well, here is something to think about. Don't beleive everything you hear or read, just because its in print that don't make it true. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07043.html

12-21-2006, 10:00 AM	#2
Jediscroller American Craftsman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Galaxy far, far away Posts: 3,153 Blog Entries: 6	Well, at least this proves modern coatings are safe otherwise every piece of furniture made would be recalled. Lead has been illegal as an additive for over 30 years. __________________ Kevin Scrollsaw Patterns Online Making holes in wood with an EX-30, Craftsman 16" VS, Dremel 1680 and 1671 Last edited by Jediscroller; 12-21-2006 at 10:07 AM.

12-21-2006, 01:33 PM	#3
MacS Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 770	Safe coatings if all coatings were tested then I would agree, coatings are not tested, and manufacturers want to keep it that way. Do you realalize how many new finishing products were developed in the last 30 years that are being used in all the coatings being used in finishing today. Did you know, that only banned solvents and chemicals cannot be used, but if the solvent or the chemical has not been tested, it can be used until it has been tested which can take years and years. That is why, no one makes waves and they don't want their coatings tested. That coating with the "lead" was coating their furnitnure since 2002 they first got caught in 2006, the solvent had evaperated and it was all cured, but it was not safe was it! They talk about "encapsalation" inside the coating, it didn't make this coating safe, did it. Last edited by BobD; 12-21-2006 at 02:03 PM. Reason: Personal comments

12-21-2006, 02:06 PM	#4
chrispuzzle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 228	I don't make a habit of biting my furniture, of course, but Mac, your posts on this subject seem to suggest that nobody should ever use any finish on anything, in case it contains some as yet undiscovered poison. I'm sure that's not what you mean. So what should we do, if we're not supposed to believe what we read or follow what other people say? __________________ "If you march your Winter Journeys you will have your reward, so long as all you want is a penguin's egg." Saws: AWSF18, Meccano Mk II Last edited by BobD; 12-22-2006 at 01:08 PM.

12-21-2006, 03:31 PM	#5
workin for wood Master Scroller Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan Posts: 2,447	yikes...I'm boycotting the finish section from my daily reading..it gets to serious for a clown like me. __________________ Jeff Powell

12-22-2006, 03:22 AM	#6
lucky788scroller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 6,338	ummm Bill Y. My question... Why such a blatant personal attack on a public forum. You especially of all people should know better!!! Dale

12-22-2006, 03:30 AM	#7
bearfretworks Retired Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Buse Township, MN Posts: 1,354	Come on folks. LET's VOLUNTARILY LOCK THIS THREAD until the mods wake up and do their thing. Personal attacks are unaceptable. STOP IT NOW, PLEASE. Let this be the last post here!!!!! No more post to this thread....please. __________________ I love the smell of burnt gunpowder.....it reminds me of a full tummy

12-22-2006, 03:41 AM	#8
lucky788scroller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 6,338	I agree Barry!!! Dale

12-22-2006, 04:22 AM	#9
CanadianScroller Moderator CUT IT OUT Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chilliwack British Columbia, Canada Posts: 3,881 Blog Entries: 12	Non Constructive comments I have locked the thread and removed some of the comments. The comments are in tact and can be restored. This will depend on the other moderators. I have had two notifications of complaints about the threads. None of this is in the best interest of the forum and the members. While you may have agreed or disagreed with the comments posted, we cannot tolerate any public bashing of any of our members. If you have any issues about what I have done please feel free to email me. Respectfully Carl Hird-Rutter __________________ CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net." Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

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