Making it shine

[Sawduster]

OK, I've scrolled my fingers to the bone ( no, not really ) sanded, cleaned , applied my stain ( sprayed or dipped, depending ) and now I want to spray something that will seal & shine ....gloss or semi , again depending. Currently I only have spray shellac and Krylon acrylic in my shop, neither of which have worked very well for me. The acrylic tends to " orange peel " pretty quickly, probably due to my inexperience . I would like to hear from you 'speerienced folks about what you use as a final coat and how you apply it
Thanx

[minowevie]

Hy Robert, I just started useing Delf. Clear wood finish, I use the satin. some one here told me about it. and thanks to ever did. it was a gale. (ha ha) it is good for me , becouse I spray way to much. doing small fretwork. its hard to get the laquor in the small places with out over spraying. and puddalling. it seams to have a leavaling ageant. that spreads it around and thats just what i needed. also, leaves no vesabale webbing or camale hairs like i like to call them. like she said. if you wont a shinny finish . just spray on more. no matter if flat or satin. i haven't tryed the closs. i found this at lous. and walmart. hope this helps

Evie Ps it is a spray on.

[Marcel in Longueuil]

Hi Robert,

The important thing to remember is to spray THIN coats.
We all tend to want to cover with one coat and that is a mistake.

DEFT brand Urethane or lacquer is a good product used by many in here. Personally I will use different finish for my projects, sometimes just to experiment.

I like to use a coat of oil, Tung or Danish, to make the grain show itself, then I use lacquer or Urethane sprayed in multiple thin coats, no sanding in between except sometimes before the last coat.

The instructions on the spray can will tell you how long between coats so you don't have to sand.

If you want "depth" to your finish, you may want to use a gloss finish except for the last coat where you would use semi-gloss.

Trivia:
How do you tell which is the Gloss spray can from the semi-gloss spray can without reading the label?
Shake them: The Semi-gloss is the one with the "ball" inside the can to mix the agent that tones down the gloss. The can of gloss has no "ball" in it.

Regards,
Marcel

[wwalker47]

Sawduster-

Have you tried Karylin Triple Thick? Works for me. Look for it in Wahl-mart.

Fingers to the bone? So let's see what you've done.

-Bill

[Mick Walker]

Robert, for a water based finish that will not turn your wood amber I have had good luck with Minwax Polycrylic spray, it comes in satin, semi gloss and gloss. 3 or 4 coats, the first coat will raise the grain slightly requiring a light sanding. You can recoat it in 30 minutes. The trick is light coats. Good luck with whatever you decide on. Mick Delta P-20

[minowevie]

Originally Posted by Marcel in Longueuil

Hi Robert,

The important thing to remember is to spray THIN coats.
We all tend to want to cover with one coat and that is a mistake.

DEFT brand Urethane or lacquer is a good product used by many in here. Personally I will use different finish for my projects, sometimes just to experiment.

I like to use a coat of oil, Tung or Danish, to make the grain show itself, then I use lacquer or Urethane sprayed in multiple thin coats, no sanding in between except sometimes before the last coat.

The instructions on the spray can will tell you how long between coats so you don't have to sand.

If you want "depth" to your finish, you may want to use a gloss finish except for the last coat where you would use semi-gloss.

Trivia:
How do you tell which is the Gloss spray can from the semi-gloss spray can without reading the label?
Shake them: The Semi-gloss is the one with the "ball" inside the can to mix the agent that tones down the gloss. The can of gloss has no "ball" in it.

Regards,
Marcel

Marcel that is some good tips. I didn't know that about the ball. and why do you use gloss first. then semi-gloss? never heard that before.
Evie

[sheltiecarver]

Evie,
The semi-gloss, matte, or satin finishes have some stuff to dull the shine. Not knowing what they are exactly, I just call them "dullers". If you spray on multiple coats, they may get a bit "milky" looking. I carve, and I found this out - well, you can probably guess!
So... if you want a deep finish, you use the clear to build it up, and then dull the shine with the last coat.
I always knew I didn't want a really glassy shine to my carvings - it can make them look less like wood and more like glass or ceramic. I use the Deft glossy for a few coats, then the satin or matte to finish.
Sandy

[minowevie]

Wow Sandy, I wish i would have read about this before i did my finish. you know, i did notice the milky stuff. didn't know what the heck was going on. but it was in my smoke, on my tile, so, i thought , that the white, would be ok. but it dosn't show now. whuuuuu. boy you guys, are just a dictionary of wealth, of knowledg, hear.
thanks so much, my next project is so big, and i wont it to be just right. it will be the best thing , I think, I have done so far. and I wont it to be a airloom. LOL. I know spelling. it will be so much work, that I sure don't wont to mess up on the finishing. i would like to glue it all together first before staining. but not sure how to do what first. i was thinking of soacking it first in blow.???? but don't know. when i get there. can i come pick your brain??
Your friend Evie

[Marcel in Longueuil]

Evie,

Anyone can pick my brains and they'll get an answer.

Sometimes it may not be the one they want to hear, but they'll get it.

Other times it may not be the right answer, but they'll get it.
In this last case, I noticed there's always someone to rapidly come and point out my mistakes. I learn from it too.

But, overall, I try to the best of my knowledge and experience to give the best advice I can; and so far I've done pretty well .

So...
Of course you can come and discuss you project's finish with all of us. That's what this forum is all about sharing ideas and knowledge (and some good jokes once in a while)

Now I'm anxious to see "THE" heirloom project.

Your friend Marcel

[sheltiecarver]

Evie,
My brain is always available for the picking - just realize that often it will be sort of "slim pickin's".
Marcel,
I hope you didn't think I was correcting you in any way - I was just trying to clarify something you said that I had also learned (the way that you don't easily forget). If I stepped on your toes, my apology. Occasionally I can be a B-head.
Sandy