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04-24-2007, 01:42 PM
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#1 | | Member
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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| Wood Suggestions? I have started out my scrolling by doing segmented stuff and someone suggested I stop using Baltic Birch Ply and use a hard wood.....what would you suggest??
I have all the stores I need in PHX, Wood Craft, Wood Workers Source, Timber Woodworking, just to name a few.... so I can find whatever I should be buying but every time I talk to someone at one of the stores I get a different answer.
So since lots of you have done segmented work before what is the best wood for it?
Thanks from a new guy on the block.
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04-24-2007, 02:20 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Butler, PA
Posts: 363
| I admit to ignorance on the finer points of segmentation. I understand the concept, but I think a few questions may be in order to be able to answer yours.
How do you typically finish your segmentation projects, paint, stain, natural?
How thick does the material need to be?
How much sanding/shaping needs to be done?
Those are for starters and I suspect that the answers to those questions will vary depending on the specific project. It that's true, then the best wood for segmentation will vary by project as well.
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04-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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#3 | | Grumpy Old Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Galaxy far, far away
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| I've always just used plain ol' pine for segmentated pieces. I see no reason you would use a hardwood for segmentation as you're going to be altering the color of the wood anyhow.
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04-24-2007, 05:51 PM
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#4 | | Master Scroller
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan
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| I think pine is ok, but I think poplar is better. poplar is harder wood, so less prone to accidental scratches or dents. A soft maple is probably the best choice, because it is pretty close to the same hardness as poplar, but takes a stain better. I assume the reason to use a solid wood is so that you don't see the plywood edges when you jack your pieces. Any of these three woods are relatively easy to cut, and readily available in almost any thickness. You can stick with the birch too. Birch is a hardwood, it stains good, as you notice with your plywood, and birch is available in many thicknesses as well. Maple has better grain that birch or poplar. Pine is soft, but it isn't that easy to cut, the blade can jump on you through the softspots if you feed too fast. Pine is more work to stain as well, but pine is the easiest of all if you do any shaping. Hope any of this helps with your question.
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04-24-2007, 07:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cottageville, West Virginia
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| Jeff is right on the money!!! Soft Maple in 1/2" thickness is probably the best choice because the white color of the wood is fairly consistent and it will accept stain well. Poplar is my wood of choice simply because it is readily available just down the road from where I live. Poplar has color variations ranging from green, brown and purple shades in most of the boards so you have to be careful to select a nice clear white board or the stain color won't be consistent. Pine is useable but I find that the grain often detracts from a completed piece because of the way it absorbs stain. Stick with soft Maple and Poplar and you can't go wrong. 
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04-25-2007, 02:32 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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| Thanks you guys....appreciate it!
Neal, I was trying to go buy everything you said in your book to the T and then the guy at the wood shop was like " NO NO NO you want Baltic Birch I have been scrolling for 15 years and woodworking for 40 years... here is what you need!"
Hate to argue with the owner of the store...but guess I should have stood my ground in the first place....I told him I was brand new to scrolling as I am...and didn't want to seem like an arrogant punk to him, he probably will be a great friend and brain to pick in the future...but who knows lol....guess I'm too polite....oh the learning curve....so much fun!
Headed to get some soft maple today!!!
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05-09-2007, 04:59 AM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Glen Burnie, MD
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| Next time don't say brand new to scrolling, say "looking for new woods to use to explore my creativity." Did you like that?
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05-10-2007, 01:06 AM
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#8 | | Newly Customized Moose
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Originally Posted by will8989 Next time don't say brand new to scrolling, say "looking for new woods to use to explore my creativity." Did you like that?
Betty | With BS like that you should be in politics, Betty ...   
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05-10-2007, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PuzzledMoose | YYIIPPPIIEEE Betty for President!!!! I will vote for her. She don't take No BS from anybody either. They would not run over her. Okay Betty you have one vote. Steve |
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05-10-2007, 09:42 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin
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| Id suggest maple as well, mainly because it stains nicely. Also, you can find huge variety in grain patterns within the maple family. Dale |
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