oil with glue

[silver fox]

Greetings to everyone. I am a new member and am talking to you from
Downunder. I live in a place called Tuncurry, New South Wales (yes, it is on the map) and have been scrolling now for about 3 years. After 25 years of woodturning, I felt like doing something different so I started scrolling and am now hooked. I have completed several projects from the Wildwood Designs and Jeff Zaffino collections and am currently in the processing of doing two more.

There is one thing I am hoping someone out there may be able to help me with.....
After completing a project and glueing it together, I like to use Danish oil as a finish. What I would REALLY like to do is oil it first and then glue it together. It stands to reason that oil and glue don't mix and therefore haven't been game enough to try this in case the project falls apart on me later.

So, my questions is this......does anyone know of a glue which is compatible with oil???

[minowevie]

Hi there silver fox. welcome to the forum. I would love to see your projects. I also love the Wildwood Designs and Jeff Zaffinos. those are great patterns. I have never dipped my projects in oil first, but maybe it could be done. I do stain some before glueing, and have never had a problem with that. what I do is just tape the area to be glued. and do a little sanding after. and then glued with my regular glue. seams to work for me. the glue I use is Tite bond. but then maybe your projects are oiled a lot more than mine. welcome I am sure someone will jump in to give you more impute. your friend Evie

[campasano]

In all the years I have been woodworking, I have never oiled my project pieces before glueing, the reason being is that in order for the glue to dry and bond completely you need to have a very clean surface. I would think that the danish oil or stains would hinder that process. This is my take on it and I may be wrong, I am anxiously waiting to see other replies......Mike

[paul44224]

Hi there! Welcome! Myself, I would try a couple of times on some scrap pieces . Oil, glue, and see what happens.

Paul

[greatdane2]

Hello and welcome to the crew. It was mentioned on this site a while back that someone put tape over the area to be glued and then oiled the pieces. So you could try that on some scraps and see what happens. I have never had any luck doing the oil before gluing.

Alan.

[marshall]

Welcome Silverfox : I'm also with Alan on this , never heard of doing it this way before . Have heard of applying Lemon oil to a project before applying a finishing coat , but that's the only oil that I've ever heard of being used before. Maybe I'll learn something on this post , for this is a question that I've never heard of !!!!!!!!! Marshall

[Ray Strauss]

Aloha Silverfox,

I finish most of my work with lacquer now but hand rubbed danish oil is a past specialty of mine. The issue is of adhesion, the problem will not be as of a resut of oil and glue, Danish oil is a mixture of fine wood oil and a varnish type material. If you tried to bond while your oil is wet, it will be a problem, however, when danish oil is cured it is hard, not oily. It requires many coats of Danish oil to completely seal the grain, there will still be some porosity, so it becomes a question of which glue to use. a light sanding of the intended area to be glued and epoxy will be your best bet. Epoxy (Marine grade, not 5 minute) will bond teak very well and teak is an oily wood. It can be done, it's a matter of the right glue!

Hope this helps, Ray

[north wood clocks]

Welcome Silver Fox
I use mostly regular wood glues, yellow or quicker setting like Probond by Elmers. The best glue joint is is a clean cut, free of oils,
varnishes and burns from cutting. Taping the outside of a miter joint to prevent squeeze out is helpful. I'd be careful with a lot of glues because they dry different colors, and some expand as they dry, and may emphasize your joint. Epoxy works good to bond metals or glass to wood, but can be messy. I have never used Marine grade. Definately try trial and error on scrap. It may be well worth the time.
Hope you enjoy your scrolling, Silver Fox.
Norman

[silver fox]

Thankyou one and all for your comments and suggestions. I will certainly take them on board and try them out. It's great to know there are so many skilled craft-people like yourselves out there who one can turn to for help.
Evie, I CAN show you a project I completed. It's the 23rd Psalm I got from Wildwood Designs. I actually made the bragging page in the last issue of SSWC (Holiday 2008 issue 33)!! I'm the handsome-looking devil on the bottom of page 12.

[minowevie]

Originally Posted by silver fox

Thankyou one and all for your comments and suggestions. I will certainly take them on board and try them out. It's great to know there are so many skilled craft-people like yourselves out there who one can turn to for help.
Evie, I CAN show you a project I completed. It's the 23rd Psalm I got from Wildwood Designs. I actually made the bragging page in the last issue of SSWC (Holiday 2008 issue 33)!! I'm the handsome-looking devil on the bottom of page 12.

there you are . gosh that is a great project. I too wish to do this one. Mitchell--- I have one question for you. how do you do this size project. I can not for the life of me. see how you cut this. you must cut it is 4ths some how, but just can't see it. HA. maybe I should order the pattern huh.? and yes, you are a handsome devil for sure. you did a great job on this . my brother would love to get this from me. and I would love to do it for him. this is so well done. thanks for sharing it. that is scrolling at its best. your friend Evie