Welcome to Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board, an online scroll saw forum community where you can join thousands of scrollers from around the world discussing all things related to Scrolling. To gain full access to the message board you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:

 * Browse over 200,000 posts.
 * Communicate privately with other scrollers from around the world.
 * Post your own photos or view from 7,000 user submitted images.
 * Gain access to exclusive scroll saw promotions offered by Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts and Fox Chapel Publishing.

All this and much more is available to you absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact the Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Support Team.

Go Back   Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board > Scroll Saw > Tools and Blades
Connect with Facebook

Tools and Blades

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-05-2006, 02:44 PM   #1
Member
 
scrollersmoke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: crossville Tenn.
Posts: 65
Default Drill press Question

On the 11x14 cuttings i cant reach the center with my benchtop drillpress so i was going to buy a floor model but i dont no how they are measyred, in other words what does say a 14inch. press mean? does it has a 7inch center to the bit you no 7 inchs to shaft from bit. I am guessing the biggest cutting i would do would be an 11x17 so what size drill press would i need?
Thanks Rick
scrollersmoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 02:55 PM   #2
Moderator CUT IT OUT
 
CanadianScroller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chilliwack British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 3,937
Blog Entries: 12
Default

There are radial drill presses that will reach well into almost any wood you can throw at them.
check out this link or this one
Unless it is critical that you get a certain angle on the center of your 11x17 piece I would recommend a drill with a flex shaft so you can move it where ever you want.
__________________
CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ
"proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net."
Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21
CanadianScroller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 03:09 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 54
Default

I had the same problem and got the best tip from another scroller on this.
Buy a plunge router attachment for your Dremel. About $35. A lot cheaper than a floor model and gives you great controll for those "can't reach' spots.

John

Old Dust
Old Dust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 04:20 PM   #4
American Crafstman
 
Jediscroller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Galaxy far, far away
Posts: 3,174
Blog Entries: 5
Default

I just use a dremel and a block of 3/4" wood with a "V" cut into it to guide the bit. Quick, easy and painless.
__________________
Kevin
Scrollsaw Patterns Online
Making holes in wood with an EX-30, Craftsman 16" VS, Dremel 1680 and 1671
Jediscroller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 05:02 PM   #5
Moderator
 
Minnesota scroller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SW MN
Posts: 1,706
Default

I recently purchased a cheap rotary tool for about $20 from Menards and that works great for the areas my cheap drill press won't reach. It also spins around 10 times as fast so it's like drilling thru butter.
__________________
Mike

Making sawdust with a Dremel 1680.
www.picturetrail.com/naturephotos
Minnesota scroller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 10:47 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Near Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 1,156
Default

Scroller Smoke:

To reply to your questions:

Traditionally, Floor type drill presses are designated by the maximum distance from the center of the spindle to the nearest point on the column of the drill press. Note the word traditionally. This means that a 14 inch floor type drill press should be able to drill a hole centered at 14 inches from an edge.

For a 11 X 17 wood plank, 7 inches would be minimum, but I think an 8 inch would be the real minimum.

For many Taiwanese made drill presses, that 16 inch is down sized to the nearest metric whole measurement. Not a major loss of dimension.

The following is just my opinion:

Beware: With a lot of fretwork our drill sizes are small. Last time I was using a #68 drill. Cheap drill presses have a lot of wobble in the shaft. Really expensive factory type press have a lot maintenance done on them to keep the drill wobble under 0.002 inches or even much better. My Sears drill press has a lot of wobble. If I watch the end of a #68 or a #72 drill, I have a hard time finding the starting place for the drill.

Any hand held drilling, or moto-tool drill will have a hard time with drills smaller than 1/32. At least for me. Just be sure your drill chuck can deal with a #76 thru #60 drill sizes. Some 1/2 inch chucks just cannot get that small and grip the small wire sized drills.

Please consider this: If you can afford it, a floor type drill press can be fitted with a large Forsnter bit and drill out holes for mounting clocks. A large drill press has other advantages over using a hand held drill. The trade off is speed to setup the drilling. 1/8 inch hole, stay with battery powered hand held. 3-1/2 inch hole, in 3/4 inch oak? maybe a drill press.

Phil
GrayBeard Phil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 01:05 AM   #7
Member
 
scrollersmoke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: crossville Tenn.
Posts: 65
Default

Thanks for the info, I was considering one of the radials from grizzly but it only has 5 speeds and if i bought one i would want to make sure i could use it for other stuff.
Phil, Thats what i was thinking my bench top is a 8 inch so it will only reach 4 I guess it is between the radial or a 14 inch floor model.
Thanks Rick
scrollersmoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 01:11 AM   #8
Fallen Angel
 
Gill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,625
Default

I'm a believer in the Dremel option too, although mine is in a drill press. Simply by rotating the drill through 180 degrees about its support you can position it on a board of any size. And it doesn't take up any floor space .

Gill
__________________
There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is readily adopted.
(Schopenhauer, Die Kunst Recht zu Behalten)
Gill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 01:37 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Rolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bellport, LI New York
Posts: 2,808
Default

I was using my floor model Delta for a while (16 inches from the center of the chuck to the column) The problem is when using the small drills I had the drill press really spinning. I now have a small Micromark for my tiny holes. I would have used my Dremel but I couldn't find the drillpress stand for the XPR400.
I like the idea for using the plunge router attachment. I am not comfortable freehanding it especialy when doing stack cutting of fine ornaments.
__________________
Rolf
RBI G4 Hawk, Delta SS350
Philosophy "I don't know that I can't, therefore I can"
Rolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2006, 09:21 AM   #10
Master Procrastinator
 
Thomp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: central la
Posts: 192
Default

for perpendicular holes out of reach of my bench top drill press i use an old portiline drill guide with a pistol drill.
couldn't find a photo but at woodcraft they have one similar for $38.--
see attached photo
http://www.woodcraft.com/Family.aspx...rd=drill_guide
Thomas
Attached Images
File Type: jpg web3121big.jpg (43.6 KB, 21 views)
__________________
Dremel 1680 & Delta ss250 shopmaster
Thomp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Drill Press will8989 Off Topic 10 08-03-2007 10:08 PM
drill press question Rob Tools and Blades 3 02-05-2007 04:31 AM
Drill Press Question Dchatley Tools and Blades 5 12-27-2006 03:00 AM
Drill Press Question Dchatley Tools and Blades 3 12-26-2006 05:10 PM
drill press workin for wood Tools and Blades 3 09-02-2006 07:58 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:50 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0