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Old 06-25-2009, 06:54 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Dust Collection System

I have read a few threads now about wearing masks when Scrolling.
Putting up fans with filters on the back and front of a regular fan.

What system do you use to filter your work area and how much does it cost?
Please add a link to the equipment you purchased. Maybe even a picture if you have one.

There seems to be so much info out there and yet it seem impossible to decipher fact from bull droppings.

I have been looking at a wall mount dust collector: Priced at $199
Rockler Wall Mount Dust Collector - Rockler Woodworking Tools

There is also a Floor model same price:
DELTA AP300 Portable Dust Collector - Rockler Woodworking Tools

Other units are more expensive and yet I'm not sure if they work well.
What are your thoughts please?
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:03 AM   #2
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VB, just read a review this afternoon by Marlen Kemmet Wood Magazine managing editor on the wall mount unit from Rockler. He put it in his shop and seems very satisfied. You might find this on their web site, Woodworking information and plans for woodworkers: WOOD Magazine. saw dust
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G'day VB,
If you have room, I'd opt for a two bag system over the single.
I have one of these, it's about 6 years old now and still does the job well.

If I was to get another, I'd get the 2hp model.

A typical dust extractor doesn't filter the air it just sucks what dust it can from the machine and most of it goes into the bag.
By getting a paper filter canister for the top they are much more efficient at trapping fine dust, but of course the price goes up as well.

I wouldn't use one on my scroll saw, as the noise would drive me nuts and the advantages would be minimal.
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This is what I have.. 10-550 M1 for air filtration of fine dust. I did not research them before buying, I was just lucky to find this unit on craigslist for a steal of a price, so I snapped it up. It works great, I couldnt be happier with it (especially since I think i only paid $125 for it, still with the original filter in it) This site Air Cleaners at Penn State Industries has some nice air filter units at decent prices worth checking out, they are a great company to deal with. For a small shop, just a portable unit may be all that is needed,and many do say just a good filter and a box fan works good enough too.
This is for filtering your breathing air, for using with big power tools I agree with John, you will need a dust collector to get the heavy stuff. For the heavy stuff, I have Dust Collectors and Dust Collector Accessories model #331, which is dedicated to my planer and jointer in the garage, and an older version of this Delta 50-720 1HP Single Phase Dust Collector 650 CFM that is used with my performax sander, my pneumatic drum sander, router table, and for sucking up under my tablesaw on occasion. The Delta one is in the basement where most of my tools are.
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I love it!!!

John and Lucky788scroller are your units noisy? I read through the article in other sites "W##D$" am I allowed to mention it here? LOL

People were saying thier units made less noise then the shop vacs.
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G'day VB,
From my experience, I'd say that they where right. The extractor made less noise than my "Shop Vac", although once again you can get very efficient, quite vacs, Festool is one brand that I know of. but you'd have to knock over a bank to buy one.
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Just my 2 cents --

A 3/4 hp motor is not gonna cut it - also - you would be surpised how large 30 microns are. I have a jet 1.5 hp and wish I had paid the extra for the 2hp.

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Yes, they are quieter than the old shop vac, but, the dust collectors do make a noticeable amount of noise, and its at a higher pitch than that of the shop vac, but it is far from silent.Like John said, there are some good shop vacs out there that perform well and are very quiet, Fein comes to mind for me, and yes, they arent cheap either.
As for my ceiling mounted air filter, it too is quieter than the shop vac by far, and since i've been married 14 years now, I am getting good at tuning things out (so she says). so after thats running for a little while, I dont even realize its going, but it is still not quiet by any means.
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Sorry to say this VB but if you want quiet then change your hobby to reading at a library. I have a Fein vac and by no means is it "quiet", I also have the Rockler wall mound dust collector, and it too make noise. I have it boxed in somewhat to quiet it down, and still working out some sort of solution for the noise it still makes. That being said, do use some sort of dust protection, the box fans will help, but they too make noise. You can always use hearing protection, mask, and whatever else you can come up with. After all that, when I start sawing, I seem to get lost in the enjoyment of scrolling........is it worth hearing some noise. Ablolutely! Good luck with your solution.
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Luck788scroller I would respond but my wife reads some of my threads. LOL...Honey if your reading this I love you!!!

I need to spend some money. Thats what I keep hearing and I'm trying to figure out what to get first.
I know we chat about everything shop related. So what should I get first?

Needs:
1. Filtration system (Type undecided)
2. Planer (Dewalt 735)
3. Sander (Type undecided)
4. Band saw (Should I get a 10" 12" or 14" unit?)
5. Money to pay for it all. LOL ;-)
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