Dust Collection System

[VB...]

Originally Posted by Okie_Arkie_Wood_Cutter

I also have a small shop, therefore I use a very good dust mask, a cheap square shape fan with a A/C filer to to it, and a noisy shop vac.

For now I opted for a similar setup:
1. I bought a cheap square shape fan with a A/C filer tapped to it.

2. I am just about finished building a small drop down sanding table with a shop vac hook up. will post pictures soon.

3. Ordered a Hitachi Belt Sander 4"x6" with an 8" Disk sander.

4. Ordered a Wixey Digital Table saw gauge.
5. Next Purchase DW735 Planer

6. Once I find a 14" Band saw for sale that might be a good New Years present from the kids. LOL

7. There are a few choices in a Filtration system but I think I need to waite a while longer before I spend. I need to read up a storm on these units.
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[JohnB]

VB,
The finish of the jointer isn't rough, and you can use it to machine timber down to thickness. You just have keep on running the timber over the it until the desired thickness is met.
I just don't like the bloody things, and have seen more accidents on buzzers than any other machine.
The other problem is, ones for the home users are generally only about 3" - 6" wide.

[VB...]

Originally Posted by JohnB

VB,
The finish of the jointer isn't rough, and you can use it to machine timber down to thickness. You just have keep on running the timber over the it until the desired thickness is met.
I just don't like the bloody things, and have seen more accidents on buzzers than any other machine.
The other problem is, ones for the home users are generally only about 3" - 6" wide.

Thank you John.
As you can see from my post earlier I'm starting to buy the equipment I need slowly.

I was looking at the buzzer because it seemed like a cheap short term solution. The DW735 planer what I would like to buy is around $600 US. A really nice size buzzer is around around the same price. I can't spend that right now.I can't justify it to myself. LOL

I have built a few small items to tune up my skills for that famous jewelry box I will be building, eventually. I don't see large projects in my near future. My garage work space is crowded already.

I'm feeling a little stupid! I usually tell my friends to shit or get off the pot. Here seems like I cant make the decision and I'm a little disgusted.


I might do like you said earlier "just bit the bullet and buy the whole lot".

[Pastor-Ed]

VB.
I am in much the same place tool wise as you are...

1. Studying/looking for the right dust collection system.
2. just purchased the DW 735.
3. looking for a Jointer (buzzer) that fits my needs.
4. looking for a 14" or larger bandsaw that I can use to resaw with.

John is right... the planer and jointer are different but complimentory tools.

The jointer is used to make one edge of a piece of wood straight and flat.

The planer is used to make the front and back parallel to one another (and therefore also to plane down to a specific thickness)

A jointer can not get the 2 faces of a board parallell to each other... with out the use of a special sled or shims of some kind, a planer can't make a board straight. any twists or bows on one face will be replicated on the other.

So... the reason I bought the planer first is... 1 I can use hand planes to do some of the work a jointer does (sometimes that is even fun if I am in the right mood). And the sled to use with the planer to flatten/straighten wood isn't that hard to make or too use, just not as easy as the jointer. And for edge jointing, I can again use hand planes or my router table.

Reason 2. The price on the 735 has been creeping up lately... Since I knew I wanted this tool in particular, I thought this might be a good time to get it, even though it means putting off a couple of other tools for a while longer.

I am very interested in hearing what others are using for dust collection. I am still pondering my options on that.

Hope this was helpful,

Take care, Ed

[Rolf]

VB,

I had the Delta 6" bench to Jointer. It was OK for very small jobs but for real jointing not so hot. I now have the Jet 6" floor model very heavy and works great for my needs.

Regarding the Wixey. I would suggest removing the battery if you won't be using it for awhile.
Even when it is off it eats the battery.

[VB...]

Originally Posted by Rolf

VB,

I had the Delta 6" bench to Jointer. It was OK for very small jobs but for real jointing not so hot. I now have the Jet 6" floor model very heavy and works great for my needs.

Regarding the Wixey. I would suggest removing the battery if you won't be using it for awhile.
Even when it is off it eats the battery.

Thank you Rolf I will definitly remove the battery. I would love to get the Jet everything. LOL but I don't have the room/cash.

Originally Posted by Pastor-Ed

VB
A jointer can not get the 2 faces of a board parallell to each other... with out the use of a special sled or shims of some kind, a planer can't make a board straight. any twists or bows on one face will be replicated on the other.


Hope this was helpful,

Take care, Ed

Thank you Ed and JohnB I'm sure its obvious by now that I have never used a jointer "Buzzer".

FYI
I received my Sander 4" with an 8" disc. by Hitachi.
Its OK. the dust bag catches a lot but there is a whole lot of particles in the air anyway. It will do for now. I can definitely see myself buying a bigger unit. I didn't get a chance to hook up the vac to it but I will try tonight.

[VB...]

Originally Posted by VB...

For now I opted for a similar setup:
Done-->1. I bought a cheap square shape fan with a A/C filer tapped to it.
Done-->2. I am just about finished building a small drop down sanding table with a shop vac hook up. will post pictures soon.

Done-->3. Ordered a Hitachi Belt Sander 4"x6" with an 8" Disk sander.

Done-->4. Ordered a Wixey Digital Table saw gauge.
Done-->5. Next Purchase DW735 Planer

6. Once I find a 14" Band saw for sale that might be a good New Years present from the kids. LOL

7. There are a few choices in a Filtration system but I think I need to waite a while longer before I spend. I need to read up a storm on these units.
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Wixey came in works great. I will make a few cuts over the weekend to test its accuracy but I think I will be very happy with it.

Got a DW735 planer from Ebay yesterday for $450. Machine is a monster at 92lbs. I read so much on this unit about how clean it cuts and its almost snipe free.
So far I am not impressed. First thing I need to do is check the blades because they may be worn. My snipe is 3.5 inches on both infeed and outfeed side.

VB...

[wood-n-things]

Try making a sled for the planer..a piece of mdf with a masonite finish with a cleat attached to the underside of the board on the infeed side so it stays put and your hunk of to be milled wood slides on this and takes out the imperfections of the infeed and outfeed tables.

It virtually did way with my snipe problem.

[VB...]

Originally Posted by wood-n-things

Try making a sled for the planer..a piece of mdf with a masonite finish with a cleat attached to the underside of the board on the infeed side so it stays put and your hunk of to be milled wood slides on this and takes out the imperfections of the infeed and outfeed tables.

It virtually did way with my snipe problem.

Mike can you send me a picture of what you have? Thank you very much.

VB...

[wood-n-things]

This is going to cost you....<GRIN>
I had to go out to my shop in the heat of the day to take these for you. I hope they help you visualize my sled. It is pretty basic.

1st one is inserted in planer ready to use.
2nd one is standing on edge to show my excellent craftsmanship...LOL
3rd one is just another angle of it back in the planer.
The melamine board is very smooth and the boards seem to slide easily on it. A little paste wax once in awhile keeps it smooth.



Hope that helps..