Frame Making Help - Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board

smw6442 · 05-04-2009, 10:15 PM

Is there anyone out there who knows how to make a picture frame for scroll saw portraits. i did my frist portrait and i want to frame it by making my own frame.. i can do the routering and cutting the 45's but i'm having trouble getting the right size i need.. i going to use 3/4inch wide stock and 3inch wide strips.. how do you figure out the size you need to cut.. any help would be great.. steve

Mick Walker · 05-04-2009, 10:44 PM

Steve, here is the formula I use. Frame stock width, subtract the width of the rabbet, multiply by 2, add to height and width of picture.
8" X 10" picture using 3" frame stock with a 1/2" rabbet. 3" minus 1/2"= 2 1/2" X 2= 5". Outside dimension of your frame would be 13" X 15". Use any numbers you want, just follow the formula. Want the frame a little loose, add 1/16" to the outside dimensions.

sawdustus · 05-05-2009, 12:42 PM

Mick, that is brilliantly simple. I sure beats trying to get an accurate measure from the inside of the miter where it meets the inside of the rabbet. Thanks.

george

Wood Dog · 05-05-2009, 03:37 PM

Oh Mick you are an angel sent from heaven......I suck at trying to figure out number stuff. Thank you so much for posting to Steve's question.
Welcome Steve and thanks for asking the question.......see questions help lots of people not just the the one posing the question.

smw6442 · 05-06-2009, 02:28 AM

Hi mick thanks for the help... let me see if i got this right
my picture is 8 1/2 x 8 1/2 i'm using 2 1/2 wide stock.. and 1/2 inch rabbet
so i take 2 1/2 - 1/2 gives me 2 x2 is 4 plus 8 1/2 plus 8 1/2 so my outside dimension is 12 1/2 x12 1/2 let me no if i did this right.. steve

Mick Walker · 05-06-2009, 09:11 PM

Steve, you got it. Make sure the 1/2" is the width of the rabbet, not the depth.

One thing I forgot to mention. Make sure the opposing sides of your frame are "EXACTLY" equal in length. You can cut perfect 45° angles but if the sides are not equal the whole frame will be off.

smw6442 · 05-06-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick Walker

Steve, you got it. Make sure the 1/2" is the width of the rabbet, not the depth.

One thing I forgot to mention. Make sure the opposing sides of your frame are "EXACTLY" equal in length. You can cut perfect 45° angles but if the sides are not equal the whole frame will be off.

do you use a jig when cutting your frames.. do you use a table saw or a miter saw when cutting.. steve

Jediscroller · 05-06-2009, 10:25 PM

This thread has my frame making tutorial as well as several other members' methods for making frames.
Making your own Frames (My method)

Mick Walker · 05-07-2009, 05:23 PM

Steve, I use a 10" miter saw with a 70 tooth Freud blade The only jig I use is a stop block to insure both sides are equal in length.
Kevin, I agree with your tutorial except for #11 where you say to sand all the pieces smooth then glue them together. Sanding them before gluing and they will be off somewhat. I believe sanding them after gluing them would be better. This is just my opinion.

B Smith · 05-07-2009, 06:14 PM

I made a slider for my table saw. It has an adjustable fence with stop block so all pieces are the same length.

05-04-2009, 10:44 PM	#2
Mick Walker Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Janesville, WI Posts: 1,310	Steve, here is the formula I use. Frame stock width, subtract the width of the rabbet, multiply by 2, add to height and width of picture. 8" X 10" picture using 3" frame stock with a 1/2" rabbet. 3" minus 1/2"= 2 1/2" X 2= 5". Outside dimension of your frame would be 13" X 15". Use any numbers you want, just follow the formula. Want the frame a little loose, add 1/16" to the outside dimensions. __________________ Mick, - Delta P-20 The future ain't what it used to be.

05-05-2009, 12:42 PM	#3
sawdustus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,919	Mick, that is brilliantly simple. I sure beats trying to get an accurate measure from the inside of the miter where it meets the inside of the rabbet. Thanks. george __________________ A day without sawdust is a day without sunshine. George delta 650, hawk G426

05-05-2009, 03:37 PM	#4
Wood Dog Happy to be here member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA USA Posts: 3,380	Oh Mick you are an angel sent from heaven......I suck at trying to figure out number stuff. Thank you so much for posting to Steve's question. Welcome Steve and thanks for asking the question.......see questions help lots of people not just the the one posing the question. __________________ WD

05-06-2009, 02:28 AM	#5
smw6442 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Hi mick thanks for the help... let me see if i got this right my picture is 8 1/2 x 8 1/2 i'm using 2 1/2 wide stock.. and 1/2 inch rabbet so i take 2 1/2 - 1/2 gives me 2 x2 is 4 plus 8 1/2 plus 8 1/2 so my outside dimension is 12 1/2 x12 1/2 let me no if i did this right.. steve Last edited by smw6442; 05-06-2009 at 04:15 AM.

05-06-2009, 09:11 PM	#6
Mick Walker Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Janesville, WI Posts: 1,310	Steve, you got it. Make sure the 1/2" is the width of the rabbet, not the depth. One thing I forgot to mention. Make sure the opposing sides of your frame are "EXACTLY" equal in length. You can cut perfect 45° angles but if the sides are not equal the whole frame will be off. __________________ Mick, - Delta P-20 The future ain't what it used to be.

05-04-2009, 10:15 PM	#1
smw6442 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 31	Frame Making Help Is there anyone out there who knows how to make a picture frame for scroll saw portraits. i did my frist portrait and i want to frame it by making my own frame.. i can do the routering and cutting the 45's but i'm having trouble getting the right size i need.. i going to use 3/4inch wide stock and 3inch wide strips.. how do you figure out the size you need to cut.. any help would be great.. steve

05-06-2009, 10:25 PM	#8
Jediscroller American Crafstman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Galaxy far, far away Posts: 3,166 Blog Entries: 5	This thread has my frame making tutorial as well as several other members' methods for making frames. Making your own Frames (My method) __________________ Kevin Scrollsaw Patterns Online Making holes in wood with an EX-30, Craftsman 16" VS, Dremel 1680 and 1671

05-07-2009, 05:23 PM	#9
Mick Walker Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Janesville, WI Posts: 1,310	Steve, I use a 10" miter saw with a 70 tooth Freud blade The only jig I use is a stop block to insure both sides are equal in length. Kevin, I agree with your tutorial except for #11 where you say to sand all the pieces smooth then glue them together. Sanding them before gluing and they will be off somewhat. I believe sanding them after gluing them would be better. This is just my opinion. __________________ Mick, - Delta P-20 The future ain't what it used to be.

05-07-2009, 06:14 PM	#10
B Smith Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 150	I made a slider for my table saw. It has an adjustable fence with stop block so all pieces are the same length. __________________ Smitty Dewalt 788

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