No I'm not accident prone - Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board

azbison · 03-07-2009, 05:52 PM

I've got a piece of junk table saw....

I've got a $99 craftsman special table saw.

I bought a new freud blade to help me with my chessboards. Last night I put it on and discovered my fence and blade are both out of alignment with the saw.

So I spent an hour aligning things this morning, getting everything just right and went to cut a board and the fence shifted on me, the board came flying back and just missed me. The board took a little hide off, but no fingers.

I'm done with it.

So...

My question is this, Due to my space constraints, if I get another table saw, it has to fit in a 2 foot deep cabinet....

or....

Do I go with a band saw.

Anybody's advice would be greatly appreciated.

workin for wood · 03-07-2009, 06:11 PM

The little Dewalt bench top table saw is pretty good. It has, or can be purchased seperately perhaps, a stand with wheels that folds up for storage and easy transport to the job site. I think there's extra wings and rollers that can fold up on the sides..probably an accessory too, but I've seen lots of contractors use them and they seem to love it. It would fit on a cabinet if it had to.
I got myself an owey today too. First time ever, cut my finger with my scrollsaw. I was cutting some small pieces of bloodwood, pushing fairly hard as I always do because I'm agressive, and my hand slipped darn near taking the end of my finger off! I'm talking the skin part about 1/8" from the tip, not the actual finger and bone of course. Thank goodness for super glue and duct tape!

Mick Walker · 03-07-2009, 06:22 PM

Jeff, sorry to hear of your accident. There is another post here on tools and blades that claims a scrollsaw will not cut your finger. You have pretty good proof that they will. I still say that any tool that will cut wood will cut a finger.

lucky788scroller · 03-07-2009, 10:34 PM

Jim, I suggest you just stick with a butterknife buddy. (sorry to hear about your streak of bad luck)

Mike Crosa · 03-07-2009, 10:49 PM

I got a BT3100. I have not used it a lot but it cuts straight and I have been happy with it. A lot of people poo poo it, but for what I do it has filled the bill and was pretty cheap.

Haggard3230 · 03-09-2009, 02:08 AM

Jim, you must have the same saw I have, my wife got it for me a couple of years ago. I can't use it for any finish cutting.
Jeff, I think it became blood wood after you cut your finger.

tstagman · 03-09-2009, 02:57 AM

Sorry to hear about your accident Jim.

I see a lot of those Dewalt tabletop contractor saws around but I don't really know much about them. Generally when you see a lot of construction contractors using a certain tool, it usually means they are pretty good quality.

Hawaiilad · 03-09-2009, 10:34 AM

Jim, I have the Bosch folding table saw and just love it. Big tires to roll it on and it stores in the corner untill I need it. Sets up in 5 seconds inside or outside. Extension on table for longer boards and everything stores on the saw....might check that one out as well.

DaveG · 03-09-2009, 02:48 PM

We travel a lot due to my wife's job, so I need a saw that can go with us. I have the 10" Delta (the $99 special) and to my surprise, it does a really good job. No, it doesn't compare to the 10" Ridgid at home, but it is a lot easier to move.
My complaints about this saw are few. The miter gauge could be a better fit, and you are limited to just 12" rip width. You can buy 8" extensions for it, but when I priced them they were $50 each plus tax and shipping. Not worth it to me. But other than that, I am happy with it.
You might want to check the Ryobi table saw that sells for $250 or so. Has wheels, folds up, and has side and back extensions. When my saw dies I am certainly going to give it a look.
One more thing and then I will close my mini novel. They sell bags to put under table saws for dust collection. I have a large contractor bag hooked to the Delta. Does it work? It easily catches 95% of the sawdust. Okay, shutting up now.

Dave

Barefoot1 · 03-09-2009, 07:51 PM

OK Jim, I am worried about you now, what are you trying to do? Join the something shorter something missing club???? Trust me, you don't want to do that!!
I had the portable Hitachi before I bought my big one and it was alright. Nothing to write home about for sure. I hear the DeWalt is a pretty good tool and since I own a great many of their tools I can say they make good stuff. That being said, any of the smaller portable contractor saws are going to have their limitations. I would suggest that you look at a few of them and pick the one with the best fence since that is where they all seem to be lacking the most. The other thing you want to look for is a solid trunnion that is easily adjustable so you can put it back in square because it will go out. And I have yet to see one of them with a decent miter gauge. Until then, have your wife wrap you in bubble pack and stand you in the corner until this klutz phase passes.

03-07-2009, 05:52 PM	#1
azbison Jr. Sawdust Taster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 494	No I'm not accident prone I've got a piece of junk table saw.... I've got a $99 craftsman special table saw. I bought a new freud blade to help me with my chessboards. Last night I put it on and discovered my fence and blade are both out of alignment with the saw. So I spent an hour aligning things this morning, getting everything just right and went to cut a board and the fence shifted on me, the board came flying back and just missed me. The board took a little hide off, but no fingers. I'm done with it. So... My question is this, Due to my space constraints, if I get another table saw, it has to fit in a 2 foot deep cabinet.... or.... Do I go with a band saw. Anybody's advice would be greatly appreciated. __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jim DW788 My scrollin' blog The worst day scrollin' is better than the best day o' workin'

03-07-2009, 06:11 PM	#2
workin for wood Master Scroller Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan Posts: 2,474	The little Dewalt bench top table saw is pretty good. It has, or can be purchased seperately perhaps, a stand with wheels that folds up for storage and easy transport to the job site. I think there's extra wings and rollers that can fold up on the sides..probably an accessory too, but I've seen lots of contractors use them and they seem to love it. It would fit on a cabinet if it had to. I got myself an owey today too. First time ever, cut my finger with my scrollsaw. I was cutting some small pieces of bloodwood, pushing fairly hard as I always do because I'm agressive, and my hand slipped darn near taking the end of my finger off! I'm talking the skin part about 1/8" from the tip, not the actual finger and bone of course. Thank goodness for super glue and duct tape! __________________ Jeff Powell

03-07-2009, 06:22 PM	#3
Mick Walker Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Janesville, WI Posts: 1,335	Jeff, sorry to hear of your accident. There is another post here on tools and blades that claims a scrollsaw will not cut your finger. You have pretty good proof that they will. I still say that any tool that will cut wood will cut a finger. __________________ Mick, - Delta P-20 The future ain't what it used to be.

03-07-2009, 10:34 PM	#4
lucky788scroller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 6,260	Jim, I suggest you just stick with a butterknife buddy. (sorry to hear about your streak of bad luck) __________________ Dale w/ yella saws

03-07-2009, 10:49 PM	#5
Mike Crosa Land Locked Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 1,694	I got a BT3100. I have not used it a lot but it cuts straight and I have been happy with it. A lot of people poo poo it, but for what I do it has filled the bill and was pretty cheap. __________________ Mike C. Hawk G4

03-09-2009, 02:08 AM	#6
Haggard3230 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Riverton, KS on Route 66 Posts: 2,714	Jim, you must have the same saw I have, my wife got it for me a couple of years ago. I can't use it for any finish cutting. Jeff, I think it became blood wood after you cut your finger. __________________ Merle SSG US Army Retired. merlehobbs@yahoo.com

03-09-2009, 02:57 AM	#7
tstagman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 810	Sorry to hear about your accident Jim. I see a lot of those Dewalt tabletop contractor saws around but I don't really know much about them. Generally when you see a lot of construction contractors using a certain tool, it usually means they are pretty good quality. __________________ Terry http://www.scrollsawer.com/gallery/s...0/ppuser/12859 The Hurrier I go, the Behinder I get!!

03-09-2009, 10:34 AM	#8
Hawaiilad Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Big Island in Hawaii Posts: 234	Jim, I have the Bosch folding table saw and just love it. Big tires to roll it on and it stores in the corner untill I need it. Sets up in 5 seconds inside or outside. Extension on table for longer boards and everything stores on the saw....might check that one out as well. __________________ Hawaiilad Larry

03-09-2009, 02:48 PM	#9
DaveG Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All Over Posts: 38	We travel a lot due to my wife's job, so I need a saw that can go with us. I have the 10" Delta (the $99 special) and to my surprise, it does a really good job. No, it doesn't compare to the 10" Ridgid at home, but it is a lot easier to move. My complaints about this saw are few. The miter gauge could be a better fit, and you are limited to just 12" rip width. You can buy 8" extensions for it, but when I priced them they were $50 each plus tax and shipping. Not worth it to me. But other than that, I am happy with it. You might want to check the Ryobi table saw that sells for $250 or so. Has wheels, folds up, and has side and back extensions. When my saw dies I am certainly going to give it a look. One more thing and then I will close my mini novel. They sell bags to put under table saws for dust collection. I have a large contractor bag hooked to the Delta. Does it work? It easily catches 95% of the sawdust. Okay, shutting up now. Dave Last edited by DaveG; 03-09-2009 at 02:50 PM.

03-09-2009, 07:51 PM	#10
Barefoot1 Wood Mauler Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Jordan Utah Posts: 822	OK Jim, I am worried about you now, what are you trying to do? Join the something shorter something missing club???? Trust me, you don't want to do that!! I had the portable Hitachi before I bought my big one and it was alright. Nothing to write home about for sure. I hear the DeWalt is a pretty good tool and since I own a great many of their tools I can say they make good stuff. That being said, any of the smaller portable contractor saws are going to have their limitations. I would suggest that you look at a few of them and pick the one with the best fence since that is where they all seem to be lacking the most. The other thing you want to look for is a solid trunnion that is easily adjustable so you can put it back in square because it will go out. And I have yet to see one of them with a decent miter gauge. Until then, have your wife wrap you in bubble pack and stand you in the corner until this klutz phase passes. __________________ Thomas The Barefoot Scroller ~ Thomas@barefootwoodworks.com www.barefootwoodworks.com

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