Finish Sprayer Advice Needed - Page 2 - Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board

JohnB · 12-04-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by workin for wood

I think I can speak for Phil and myself here...There's no offense and no mis-interpretations of what anyone such as John or whoever else would say or recommend..we just really love to spend peoples money!

oh...notice we are both in michigan, land of a thousand taxes, and only 3 jobs.

MikeDingas · 12-04-2007, 11:26 PM

Thanks for all the input. I'll have to save this post when it arrives in email. I'm not ready to make a purchase yet so I've time to digest all the comments and see what is available at a price I can afford. I'm glad Phil addressed the airbrush type. I was considering one since the price is low and probably representative of the amount of spraying I'll do in one sitting. Now I won't have to waste my money.

Regarding Homestead Finishing: The Walcom unit is way over my head. But I notice they sell other brands (Qualspray QS-200) which is more akin with my wallet.

thanks again for taking the time to reply.

Happy Holidays, All...

Bill Wilson · 12-05-2007, 12:39 AM

Mike,

I'm in the same boat as you. I bought a mini HVLP touch up gun from Grizzly a week or so ago. I haven't tried it yet and probably won't get around to it until I finish Christmas projects, because I don't want to learn how to use it on actual projects and I don't have time to practice with it right now.

Anyhoo, I wanted something small that would work for ornaments and small fret projects that don't lend themselves readily to dipping, wiping or brushing the finish. I've been using rattle cans of finish and they work OK, but I wanted to step up a bit. I'm hoping that overspray will be minimized with the HVLP and I can spray a variety of material.

I wish I could tell you if this set up worked to my expectations, but I'm not there yet. Once I get the time to play around with it a little, I'll have a better idea of it's capabilities and limitations.

Good luck!

GrayBeard Phil · 12-05-2007, 01:24 AM

Bill Wilson:

Please write a review of the Grizzly mini HVLP gun!!!

May I ask you to be sure to include the following:

- Overspray quantity that goes everywhere- You know, that amount of spay finish that becomes airborne and lands every where all over the shop (basement, garage, etc.,) including the shop dog's (shop cat's?) fur.

- A test using water based Polyurethane finish as well as standard varnish (MS based.) Does both products appear to used up (sprayed) in equal amounts of time. (Quantity of finish being applied equally fast.)

- Spray with a very quick left right motion, and look at the spray pattern of the product while it is still wet. You should see a very equal pattern of wet dots with equal distribution about the spray pattern. None of the missing lines, or fading of number of dots at the top and bottom compared to middle. And hopefully no thick mass of runny finish across the middle.

I hope your gun stands up. I know the very cheap HF mini gun is just a bad design and hard to clean to boot. Your gun should be a lot better.

The Walcom is of course meant to be used 6 to 8 hours a day, 50 weeks a year, for many years. Industrial grade. A bit over kill maybe for most members at this forum?

Thanks, Bill

Phil

eendreno · 12-06-2007, 01:42 AM

hi mike- voice of reason from a tool junkie. 128 oz in a gallon. 11 oz in a spray can. basically 11-12 cans equal a gallon. oil based poly is about 30 per gallon. big box stores and hardware chains run sales, got krylon on a leader for 1.99 per can. i have a cabinet full of spraying equiptment, from binks #7 to paasche airbrushes. if you feel the need the grizzly h 7670 should give you good results. i would not use it for refinishing a steinway piano. shooting acrylic get something with a little bigger nozzle. doug

12-04-2007, 11:26 PM	#12
MikeDingas Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 803	Thanks for all the input. I'll have to save this post when it arrives in email. I'm not ready to make a purchase yet so I've time to digest all the comments and see what is available at a price I can afford. I'm glad Phil addressed the airbrush type. I was considering one since the price is low and probably representative of the amount of spraying I'll do in one sitting. Now I won't have to waste my money. Regarding Homestead Finishing: The Walcom unit is way over my head. But I notice they sell other brands (Qualspray QS-200) which is more akin with my wallet. thanks again for taking the time to reply. Happy Holidays, All... __________________ Mike Craftsman 16" VS, Puros Indios and Sam Adams! Scrollin' since Jun/2006 My Gallery http://scrollcrafters.com (reciprocal links welcomed)

12-05-2007, 12:39 AM	#13
Bill Wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Butler, PA Posts: 701	Mike, I'm in the same boat as you. I bought a mini HVLP touch up gun from Grizzly a week or so ago. I haven't tried it yet and probably won't get around to it until I finish Christmas projects, because I don't want to learn how to use it on actual projects and I don't have time to practice with it right now. Anyhoo, I wanted something small that would work for ornaments and small fret projects that don't lend themselves readily to dipping, wiping or brushing the finish. I've been using rattle cans of finish and they work OK, but I wanted to step up a bit. I'm hoping that overspray will be minimized with the HVLP and I can spray a variety of material. I wish I could tell you if this set up worked to my expectations, but I'm not there yet. Once I get the time to play around with it a little, I'll have a better idea of it's capabilities and limitations. Good luck! __________________ Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter. Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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12-05-2007, 01:24 AM	#14
GrayBeard Phil Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Near Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,143	Bill Wilson: Please write a review of the Grizzly mini HVLP gun!!! May I ask you to be sure to include the following: - Overspray quantity that goes everywhere- You know, that amount of spay finish that becomes airborne and lands every where all over the shop (basement, garage, etc.,) including the shop dog's (shop cat's?) fur. - A test using water based Polyurethane finish as well as standard varnish (MS based.) Does both products appear to used up (sprayed) in equal amounts of time. (Quantity of finish being applied equally fast.) - Spray with a very quick left right motion, and look at the spray pattern of the product while it is still wet. You should see a very equal pattern of wet dots with equal distribution about the spray pattern. None of the missing lines, or fading of number of dots at the top and bottom compared to middle. And hopefully no thick mass of runny finish across the middle. I hope your gun stands up. I know the very cheap HF mini gun is just a bad design and hard to clean to boot. Your gun should be a lot better. The Walcom is of course meant to be used 6 to 8 hours a day, 50 weeks a year, for many years. Industrial grade. A bit over kill maybe for most members at this forum? Thanks, Bill Phil

12-06-2007, 01:42 AM	#15
eendreno Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: long island ny Posts: 99	hi mike- voice of reason from a tool junkie. 128 oz in a gallon. 11 oz in a spray can. basically 11-12 cans equal a gallon. oil based poly is about 30 per gallon. big box stores and hardware chains run sales, got krylon on a leader for 1.99 per can. i have a cabinet full of spraying equiptment, from binks #7 to paasche airbrushes. if you feel the need the grizzly h 7670 should give you good results. i would not use it for refinishing a steinway piano. shooting acrylic get something with a little bigger nozzle. doug