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Old 11-02-2007, 06:52 PM   #1
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Default Grinder or Other?

It is time a get a grinder, but I'm not sure if that is the tool I need. What is the preferred power tool to use for a buffing wheel, pneumatic sanding drum, flap sander, etc. I know I could use a drill press, but I would like something I could put a grinding wheel as well.

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Old 11-02-2007, 08:16 PM   #2
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You can put a buffing wheel on a grinder, but it is not ideal because the grinders output shafts are too short. It would not give you much room to maneuver your project. And a buffer can’t (shouldn’t) be used to do grinding .
There are some hybrids where one side is set up for grinding and the other has a longer output shaft for buffing. I prefer to have dedicated tools. I have an 8 inch grinder set up for sharpening my turning tools and I bought a buffer for polishing metal and wood.
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There is also the consideration of speed. If using a grinder it should be a variable speed as regular grinders are too fast for some sanding tools. I use motors such as washing machine motors, that run about 1750 rpm for my sanding attachments.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:14 PM   #4
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There is also the consideration of speed. If using a grinder it should be a variable speed as regular grinders are too fast for some sanding tools. I use motors such as washing machine motors, that run about 1750 rpm for my sanding attachments.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:03 AM   #5
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So go to the scrap yard and get a washing machine motor, mount it somehow, and wire it correctly? Do I need the on/off switch or does it have standard hot and neutral wires?
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G'day Brian,
Sorry, can't help you with that. Your stuff across the ditch seems to be wired differently than ours.
The problem with grinders, especially the lower priced ones is that they have a small motor and rely on the inertia of the stone to keep them going.
A drum sander or flap sander would not have the weight to create this inertia and stall.
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Most of the motors will have some kind of mounting bracket, I just screwed the bracket to a board and use C-clamps to attach it to the bench. The wiring is just standard 110 setup. You can wire a switch on it to break the hot wire or just wire a plug-in cord on it and use a power strip to turn it on and off. I have a motor set up each way. Hope this helps. I'm not a licensed electrician, use this info at your own risk :-)
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I recently bought a Delta variable speed grinder that came with a buffing wheel, so I'm assuming the shaft is long enough, as Rolf mentioned. Cost about $110 if I remember correctly; (I used a couple of gift cards to pay for it.) Man, I'd love to have dedicated tools, but for right now (probably meaning the next decade), I need to multi-task my tools as much as possible. I plan to use my grinder to grind, buff, and use for my flex-sanders.

So where do you get old washing-machine motors? (Other than the DUH answer of "old washing machines". Nyuk. Nyuk.)
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Some places to look for washing machine motors are, appliance repair shops, recycling centers, 2nd hand stores or the local dump. Sometimes in our area, people will advertise old machines for free or set them out in front of their houses with free signs on them. Hope this helps.
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