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articlebot · 03-23-2011, 02:52 PM

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wood-n-things · 03-23-2011, 06:56 PM

Interesting article. Never hurts to have a few reminders, even for experienced scrollers.

ChuckD · 03-24-2011, 03:48 AM

Her book and video was the first I got when I started scrolling and I still remember her "dancing hands".

freeopinions · 04-03-2011, 03:53 PM

I'm not a rank beginner, I've had a scroll saw for a long time but never used it for intricate, delicate fret-type stuff until recently. So, I guess I am sort of an old-timer-beginner. In looking at the examples in this article I see I am doing some of it right and some of it wrong.

For instance, she says never stop the saw as you make turns. I know that you get choppy turns when you do that, but I have a lot of trouble keeping on the line with tight turns. Is this just a matter of practice? The same applies to sharp square corners, or especially when you have to turn back on a line, as in cutting a blade of grass, e.g. (I notice there are no examples of that in the downloadable practice pattern.)

wood-n-things · 04-03-2011, 04:12 PM

Free,
The answer to your first question is. Yes more practice and becoming comfortable with your saw and it and your capabilities.

If you have waste area around a sharp exterior piece like a leaf tip, cut up one side and continue past the end of the line a short distance, turn a 180° and come back and cut down the opposite side, this will give you a perfect sharp point something a lazer could never do.

edited for geometric correction....LOL

freeopinions · 04-03-2011, 05:24 PM

Here is where I have great difficulty. I use a spiral blade for these, but I would prefer crisper lines. Is there a technique I can practice to spin the blade for cuts like this?

scroll-example by freeopinions, on Flickr

wood-n-things · 04-03-2011, 05:27 PM

Yes, do not use a spiral blade. They do not cut as delicately in my opinion as flat blades. You did a good job using spirals on this project. You must also remember. You know what the pattern suggests a project is supposed to look like. The recipient only sees the finished project so they would not know those are supposed to be sharp defined cuts according to the pattern.

freeopinions · 04-03-2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wood-n-things

The recipient only sees the finished project so they would not know those are supposed to be sharp defined cuts according to the pattern.

I was a photo retouch artist once, and that same principle applied there. The viewer wouldn't know that you did this or that as long as you didn't tell them or do a sloppy job. Okay as long as it's not photojournalism...

Thanks for your advice.

TJ

stephenD · 04-03-2011, 08:25 PM

Mike, your instruction to do a 360 will put you back going the same direction you started. Do you mean a 180?

freeopinions · 04-03-2011, 08:49 PM

It's okay, I knew what he meant...

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wood-n-things Staying Positive Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamilton, Montana Posts: 18,583 Thanks: 51 Thanked 384 Times in 284 Posts	Interesting article. Never hurts to have a few reminders, even for experienced scrollers. __________________ "Montana MIKE" There is a very fine line between “hobby” and “mental illness.” As You Slide Down the Banister of Life, Pray That All The Splinters Are Pointed The Other Way... "Don't worry about old age--it doesn't last that long." Mike's Wood-n-Things

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ChuckD Senior give me a Discount Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beautiful Southern Oregon Posts: 2,524 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Her book and video was the first I got when I started scrolling and I still remember her "dancing hands". __________________ Chuck D When a work lifts your spirits and inspires bold and noble thoughts in you, do not look for any other standard to judge by: the work is good, the product of a master craftsman. Jean De La Bruyere... l Hegner 18, Delta p-20, Griz 14 inch Band saw

04-03-2011, 04:12 PM	#5
wood-n-things Staying Positive Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamilton, Montana Posts: 18,583 Thanks: 51 Thanked 384 Times in 284 Posts	Free, The answer to your first question is. Yes more practice and becoming comfortable with your saw and it and your capabilities. If you have waste area around a sharp exterior piece like a leaf tip, cut up one side and continue past the end of the line a short distance, turn a 180° and come back and cut down the opposite side, this will give you a perfect sharp point something a lazer could never do. edited for geometric correction....LOL __________________ "Montana MIKE" There is a very fine line between “hobby” and “mental illness.” As You Slide Down the Banister of Life, Pray That All The Splinters Are Pointed The Other Way... "Don't worry about old age--it doesn't last that long." Mike's Wood-n-Things Last edited by wood-n-things; 04-03-2011 at 09:55 PM.

04-03-2011, 05:27 PM	#7
wood-n-things Staying Positive Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamilton, Montana Posts: 18,583 Thanks: 51 Thanked 384 Times in 284 Posts	Yes, do not use a spiral blade. They do not cut as delicately in my opinion as flat blades. You did a good job using spirals on this project. You must also remember. You know what the pattern suggests a project is supposed to look like. The recipient only sees the finished project so they would not know those are supposed to be sharp defined cuts according to the pattern. __________________ "Montana MIKE" There is a very fine line between “hobby” and “mental illness.” As You Slide Down the Banister of Life, Pray That All The Splinters Are Pointed The Other Way... "Don't worry about old age--it doesn't last that long." Mike's Wood-n-Things

04-03-2011, 03:53 PM	#4
freeopinions Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Show Low, Arizona Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not a rank beginner, I've had a scroll saw for a long time but never used it for intricate, delicate fret-type stuff until recently. So, I guess I am sort of an old-timer-beginner. In looking at the examples in this article I see I am doing some of it right and some of it wrong. For instance, she says never stop the saw as you make turns. I know that you get choppy turns when you do that, but I have a lot of trouble keeping on the line with tight turns. Is this just a matter of practice? The same applies to sharp square corners, or especially when you have to turn back on a line, as in cutting a blade of grass, e.g. (I notice there are no examples of that in the downloadable practice pattern.)

04-03-2011, 05:24 PM	#6
freeopinions Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Show Low, Arizona Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here is where I have great difficulty. I use a spiral blade for these, but I would prefer crisper lines. Is there a technique I can practice to spin the blade for cuts like this? scroll-example by freeopinions, on Flickr

04-03-2011, 08:25 PM	#9
stephenD Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,719 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 98 Thanked 43 Times in 35 Posts	Mike, your instruction to do a 360 will put you back going the same direction you started. Do you mean a 180? __________________ Pacifism is great, as long as everyone is participating. StephenD

04-03-2011, 08:49 PM	#10
freeopinions Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Show Low, Arizona Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's okay, I knew what he meant...

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