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Greenfield_Bob · 02-06-2007, 05:08 PM

I was in Rick Hutcheson's website, has anybody been in there and seen the Pencil Trick?

Bob

http://www.scrollsaws.com/

miamw · 02-06-2007, 07:41 PM

Yes, I saw it and am guessing that since no pictures of the other end were shown, there must be a dowel in there somewhere. If you notice the end where the eraser is is solid, however, the end where the point of the pencil is has a hole and the point end of the pencil is in the hole. I would guess that a hole was drilled on that end and then a dowel with possibly close grain structure was put in place. But like I said, no picture was shown of that end.

Just my HO.

CanadianScroller · 02-06-2007, 07:47 PM

even drilling a hole that long is a challenge.
Both ends of the puzzle are shown and I dont see a dowel.
I am still trying to figure out how they drilled the holes and left the ends in tact if there are no glue marks.

Quite a challenge indeed

Rick-H · 02-06-2007, 07:52 PM

There are no signs of any dowels or plugs on either end. No signs of a tab being broken off and glued back on.
I have been getting tips that maybe it is steamed, crushed in a vise, then steamed again to get it back to original form, but I haven't tried it yet.

CanadianScroller · 02-06-2007, 07:58 PM

New theory on how the pencil was inserted but cant figure out how to drill the holes.
If you look at the grain on the block you could soak the block in water long enough to make it flex slightly.
It looks like the hole at the end of the block by the eraser is slightly larger and slightly more discoloured than the rest.
Wetting down the wood to flex it is common in puzzles, like the arrow through the apple puzzle.
Once the pencil was inserted in the puzzle you could clamp it in blocks and allow it to dry.

Just a theory.

Now I have tossed a theory out there someone tell me how to make the holes!

darn cross posting

miamw · 02-06-2007, 08:03 PM

I still say there is no picture of the point end of the pencil and there must be a dowel on that end.

Why don't we all give Rick a call? He'd go nuts with so many calls to see if he knows the secret....he probably does too!

The discoloration around the eraser part is normal for the metal if rubbed up against the wood.

BobD · 02-06-2007, 08:11 PM

Is there any evidence that the pencil was cut up?

Bob

utbva · 02-06-2007, 08:14 PM

Must be trained termites.

utbva · 02-06-2007, 08:15 PM

Even if the pencil was cut up, how were the holes drilled?

BobD · 02-06-2007, 08:16 PM

Could the holes be carved in with a dremel or gouge or something like that? How regular are they in diameter?

02-06-2007, 05:08 PM	#1
Greenfield_Bob Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,414	Pencil Trick I was in Rick Hutcheson's website, has anybody been in there and seen the Pencil Trick? Bob http://www.scrollsaws.com/ __________________ Delta P-20 & Q-3 Ever notice that anyone going slower than you is an idiot, but anyone going faster than you is a maniac?

02-06-2007, 07:47 PM	#3
CanadianScroller Moderator CUT IT OUT Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chilliwack British Columbia, Canada Posts: 3,936 Blog Entries: 12	even drilling a hole that long is a challenge. Both ends of the puzzle are shown and I dont see a dowel. I am still trying to figure out how they drilled the holes and left the ends in tact if there are no glue marks. Quite a challenge indeed __________________ CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net." Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

02-06-2007, 07:58 PM	#5
CanadianScroller Moderator CUT IT OUT Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chilliwack British Columbia, Canada Posts: 3,936 Blog Entries: 12	New theory on how the pencil was inserted but cant figure out how to drill the holes. If you look at the grain on the block you could soak the block in water long enough to make it flex slightly. It looks like the hole at the end of the block by the eraser is slightly larger and slightly more discoloured than the rest. Wetting down the wood to flex it is common in puzzles, like the arrow through the apple puzzle. Once the pencil was inserted in the puzzle you could clamp it in blocks and allow it to dry. Just a theory. Now I have tossed a theory out there someone tell me how to make the holes! darn cross posting __________________ CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net." Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

02-06-2007, 08:03 PM	#6
miamw Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 461	I still say there is no picture of the point end of the pencil and there must be a dowel on that end. Why don't we all give Rick a call? He'd go nuts with so many calls to see if he knows the secret....he probably does too! The discoloration around the eraser part is normal for the metal if rubbed up against the wood. Last edited by miamw; 02-06-2007 at 08:39 PM.

02-06-2007, 08:11 PM	#7
BobD Technical Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 2	Is there any evidence that the pencil was cut up? Bob __________________ www.WoodCarvingIllustrated.com www.FoxChapelPublishing.com www.ScrollSawer.com Shopsmith, Hawk G4

02-06-2007, 07:41 PM	#2
miamw Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 461	Yes, I saw it and am guessing that since no pictures of the other end were shown, there must be a dowel in there somewhere. If you notice the end where the eraser is is solid, however, the end where the point of the pencil is has a hole and the point end of the pencil is in the hole. I would guess that a hole was drilled on that end and then a dowel with possibly close grain structure was put in place. But like I said, no picture was shown of that end. Just my HO.

02-06-2007, 07:52 PM	#4
Rick-H Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grimes, Iowa Posts: 275	There are no signs of any dowels or plugs on either end. No signs of a tab being broken off and glued back on. I have been getting tips that maybe it is steamed, crushed in a vise, then steamed again to get it back to original form, but I haven't tried it yet.

02-06-2007, 08:14 PM	#8
utbva Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Centerville, Utah Posts: 840	Must be trained termites. __________________ Bill I have an RBI Hawk 220-3 VS

02-06-2007, 08:15 PM	#9
utbva Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Centerville, Utah Posts: 840	Even if the pencil was cut up, how were the holes drilled? __________________ Bill I have an RBI Hawk 220-3 VS

02-06-2007, 08:16 PM	#10
BobD Technical Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 2	Could the holes be carved in with a dremel or gouge or something like that? How regular are they in diameter? __________________ www.WoodCarvingIllustrated.com www.FoxChapelPublishing.com www.ScrollSawer.com Shopsmith, Hawk G4

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