requesting permission (question)

[scrollersmoke]

I have a question, If someone was interested in getting permission to use a photo or another object to make a patteren out of and to sell as a patteren how would that person go about doing it? I no I am still new and have a lot of learning to do but i was just wandering, It crossed my mind that i like doing this and i might accidently come up with one that might could sell in the future. This copyright stuff is hard for me to understand so i need someone to tell me in a way that a redneck like myself would understand.
also if you came up with a patteren you thought would sell how do you submite it to a cataloge or magazine? Thank you Rick

[minowevie]

Originally Posted by scrollersmoke

I have a question, If someone was interested in getting permission to use a photo or another object to make a patteren out of and to sell as a patteren how would that person go about doing it? I no I am still new and have a lot of learning to do but i was just wandering, It crossed my mind that i like doing this and i might accidently come up with one that might could sell in the future. This copyright stuff is hard for me to understand so i need someone to tell me in a way that a redneck like myself would understand.
also if you came up with a patteren you thought would sell how do you submite it to a cataloge or magazine? Thank you Rick

Hi Rick. My guess would be , ask the person who took the pictuer, or object. your know who would know the answers would be Rick H. I think you are wise to ask this, and keep your self out of troubale. I am so glad you are injoying your self. addicting Huh. on the cataloge thing. I don't have a clue. but just wait , someone will have it for you.
your friend Evie

[Forester21]

You would need permission from the person who took the picture. Better yet, take the picture yourself. Now, there are some things that even when you take your own picture, you cannot just make the pattern and sell. For example, in my town there is a Fireman's Memorial with a statue. In order for me to sell anything with that statue on it I would have to have permission from the organization that put the statue up. They hold a festival here each year, and have been known to confiscate all of a vendors merchandise if they have not gotten permission (and paid a fee) to sell the image/article. Better example - if you want to scroll/intarsia/etc. a picture of Smokey Bear, you would have to pay a fee and get permission from the US Forest Service.

Most magazines have a website, and on the website there is usually a link about how to submit a project. For example, SSWC has a button on the top that says "About Us" Under that, there is another link saying "Looking for articles" That gives you the information you need. I'm not sure how to get patterns into catalogs.

Theresa

[Minnesota scroller]

Photos of people require a model release and all else require a property release signed by the owner of the property. I would first ask the owner of the property and then find a property release form online and make sure the owner signs it. This gives you rights to do whatever you want with the photo.

[Rick H]

I have this page on my web site about copyrights. At the bottom of the page I have added links to many of the better pages I have found that explain in more detail about what the laws mean. Start reading the pages listed and then following links from these pages and I am sure you will find more information than you can remember. But you will have a lot better understanding about the copyright laws when you are done.

http://www.scrollsaws.com/General/Copyright.html

[minowevie]

I think it would be so cool, if we could not get Canser, without getting a copyright permition first, don't you think. Now that would be worth something.

[Jediscroller]

Theresa,
I'm not sure how they're getting away with it. Perhaps it's because of how it's classified (or people just won't fight with them in court). You do not need a "property release" for architectural works if they are visible from a public place.
USC 17, Chapter 1, sec. 120 (a) states:
"(a) Pictorial Representations Permitted.— The copyright in an architectural work that has been constructed does not include the right to prevent the making, distributing, or public display of pictures, paintings, photographs, or other pictorial representations of the work, if the building in which the work is embodied is located in or ordinarily visible from a public place."

I'd suggest anyone interested in learning about copyrights to read the code for themselves. One source is here.

Regarding the original question, I work with a local wildlife photographer who gives me permission to use her photos in exchange for a cutting. Another good source for material for patterns is the public domain. There are several sites (probably more like several hundred) that provide tons of PD photos. NASA, the US Fish and Wildlife Service and the NOAA are 3 of my favorites (work created by the US Government is typically public domain).

[Forester21]

Hmm.. I'm not sure how they do it either. They don't call it a copywrite though, and I don't think trademark is right either, but I can't think of the term they used.
Theresa

[BobD]

One of my favorite sites for animal photos is:

http://images.fws.gov/

They have a searchable database...these are great photos for you carvers out there too! Great references

Bob