Money scam - Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board

meydenhart · 05-28-2007, 07:58 PM

Today I was the subject of a scam and nearly out of pocket by R21 000 (about $3000). A guy phoned and ordered two scroll saw items off my website and I quoted him R850 (approx $122). An hour later he faxed me 'proof of internet payment' which looked completely legitimate, except the deposit was for more than R21 000! He then phoned and explained that they've made a mistake and can I please deduct my R850 and reimburse the balance. By this time I was very uneasy and I phoned my bank's fraud line. They confirmed that the deposit was actually done by check and the so-called internet transfer document was a 'mock-up'. They apparently use stolen checks, which will 'bounce' ten days later and they make their money from people ignorant enough to do the reimbursement without confirming the actual deposit method first.
Scary stuff!!!

guitarman · 05-28-2007, 08:18 PM

Wow Sue, Thanks for that info, David

MikeDingas · 05-28-2007, 09:13 PM

Glad you were sharp enough to do some checking first. Chalk one up for the good guys, I mean gals!

CanadianScroller · 05-28-2007, 10:27 PM

It never ceases to amaze me just how low people will stoop to rip off others.
Good work Sue

Huntter2022 · 05-28-2007, 10:57 PM

Sue
Thanks for letting us know

David

lucky788scroller · 05-29-2007, 01:41 AM

Just curious, was the scam originator located in Nigeria? I do know of one scam somewhat similar that almost went through involving patterns from "Toys in the Attic" a couple years ago. If its to good to be true..it probably is! Dale

Pop · 05-29-2007, 02:19 AM

Beware of the "I'm a buying partner for a man in Germany who is interested in your..." line too. Had a buddy got involved in a scam from Germany that told him there was a buyer interested in buying his Model A. To make a long story short... it was basically the same premise... they send the money to him and out of it he pays the shipper with the extra they add to the check/deposit. He then is supposed to keep the rest for payment of his car. He too had the foresite to question the check and found it was a fake. If only these folks would put this creative thinking to more legitimate endeavors.

meydenhart · 05-29-2007, 06:11 AM

Dale, yes we have many Nigerians here in South Africa and they are known to be involved in this kind of fraud (and many other schemes)

05-28-2007, 07:58 PM	#1
meydenhart Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 810 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Money scam Today I was the subject of a scam and nearly out of pocket by R21 000 (about $3000). A guy phoned and ordered two scroll saw items off my website and I quoted him R850 (approx $122). An hour later he faxed me 'proof of internet payment' which looked completely legitimate, except the deposit was for more than R21 000! He then phoned and explained that they've made a mistake and can I please deduct my R850 and reimburse the balance. By this time I was very uneasy and I phoned my bank's fraud line. They confirmed that the deposit was actually done by check and the so-called internet transfer document was a 'mock-up'. They apparently use stolen checks, which will 'bounce' ten days later and they make their money from people ignorant enough to do the reimbursement without confirming the actual deposit method first. Scary stuff!!! __________________ Sue Mey Website: www.scrollsawartist.com

05-28-2007, 09:13 PM	#3
MikeDingas Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 802 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Glad you were sharp enough to do some checking first. Chalk one up for the good guys, I mean gals! __________________ Mike Craftsman 16" VS, Puros Indios and Sam Adams! Scrollin' since Jun/2006 My Gallery http://scrollcrafters.com (reciprocal links welcomed)

05-28-2007, 10:27 PM	#4
CanadianScroller Moderator CUT IT OUT Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chilliwack British Columbia, Canada Posts: 3,695 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	It never ceases to amaze me just how low people will stoop to rip off others. Good work Sue __________________ CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net." Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

05-28-2007, 10:57 PM	#5
Huntter2022 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brockport,Ny Posts: 612 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Sue Thanks for letting us know David __________________ David Excalibur 21

05-29-2007, 02:19 AM	#7
Pop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Felton, Pa. Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Beware of the "I'm a buying partner for a man in Germany who is interested in your..." line too. Had a buddy got involved in a scam from Germany that told him there was a buyer interested in buying his Model A. To make a long story short... it was basically the same premise... they send the money to him and out of it he pays the shipper with the extra they add to the check/deposit. He then is supposed to keep the rest for payment of his car. He too had the foresite to question the check and found it was a fake. If only these folks would put this creative thinking to more legitimate endeavors. __________________ Pop Delta 16" 40-530 Ryobi 16" VS "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember it was amateurs that built the ARK but Professionals that built the Titanic!"

05-28-2007, 08:18 PM	#2
guitarman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lewisville, N.C. Posts: 1,207 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Wow Sue, Thanks for that info, David

05-29-2007, 01:41 AM	#6
lucky788scroller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 6,308 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just curious, was the scam originator located in Nigeria? I do know of one scam somewhat similar that almost went through involving patterns from "Toys in the Attic" a couple years ago. If its to good to be true..it probably is! Dale

05-29-2007, 06:11 AM	#8
meydenhart Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 810 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Dale, yes we have many Nigerians here in South Africa and they are known to be involved in this kind of fraud (and many other schemes) __________________ Sue Mey Website: www.scrollsawartist.com

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