Scroll Saw Workshop Message Board Bill of Rights

[Casey]

Just want to add my thanks for the effort and dedication it took to write the Bill of Rights. Good job.

[CanadianScroller]

Some forums do not allow messages to be posted before the administrators or the moderators get to read them and see if they are appropriate.
These kinds of boarrds are so slow.

One of the challenges of running an open forum is the fact that users may, intentionally or not, offend other users. The bill of rights allows for the freedoms we appreciate, while establishing some consequences for those who would not be quite as considerate.

I know the fun and bantering will continue, the sharing of knowledge will continue and hopefully the art of scroll sawing will flourish.
With current events revolving around "freedom of speech" it is a perfect time for us to reflect upon these freedoms.

My father, who among other things was an editor, once told me "Freedom of speech is like your freedom to spin your extended arm around. It is a freedom
until your fist comes in contact with someones nose. Then it is assault."

And that's all I have to say about that

[Old Mooner]

I agree with you Carl and your (father's) analogy of the spinning arm is a good one as far as it goes. There is another one that I used to tell my economics student--"Your freedoms end where my freedoms begin." So, if I am spinning my arm around and you walk into it, it is your fault/problem, not mine. Here, in the states, we have become so fearful of "political correctness" (PC) that we dare not say anything for fear of offending someone. I've always believed in something called "academic freedom" in my classroom and I think it applies in "real life" as well--we all agree to disagree. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine and we agree to hear each other out and, then, if necessary, go our separate (sp?) ways or come to an agreement. As I have said before, the "majority" or "consensus" decision is not always correct. It is just the one agreed on. If the majority is uninformed/uneducated/ignorant/uninterested, then it probably results in a bad decision. I feel we should be able to say/do/feel what we want as long as it doesn't bring physical harm to others. If you don't want to hear ideas/opinions other than your own, then you have that right, but you do not have the right to suppress/censor those ideas or opinions. Having said all that, I need to temper the idea a bit. In any situation/place "freedom of speech" has to be taken in context. There is a time and place for everything and comments should be appropriate to the situation/place. This forum has rules that limit "free speech" as such and that is to be expected. Membership in any group means giving up certain individual freedoms for the good of the group. Nothing could function otherwise. I can't say anything I want to in this forum and I have to "watch my language" when I do give my opinion. So much for "freedom of speech". But I agree to those limitations if I am to continue as a member. I just have to figure out some other way to irritate the other members. Sorry if this sounds "preachy," but some things are important enough to preach about.
Moon
Moon

[Gill]

Of course, if a member should consider someone here to be a perpetual annoyance, there's always the "Ignore User" choice.

(Hmmmm.... I wonder how many people will actually read this post? It's possible that I might already be subject to this option from a number of members ).

Gill

[CanadianScroller]

That is a man prerogative, to ignore. We have very selective hearing.

But a wise man has the last word and doesnt use it

Originally Posted by Gill

Of course, if a member should consider someone here to be a perpetual annoyance, there's always the "Ignore User" choice.

(Hmmmm.... I wonder how many people will actually read this post? It's possible that I might already be subject to this option from a number of members ).

Gill

[Old Mooner]

You are correct Gill. I wonder how many of us are talking to ourselves? Interesting thought, but considering the responses some of us get from the group, it is obvious that we are having too much fun to ignore each other. I may not agree with you, but I love to hear you ("you" in the generic sense, not you in particular) prattle on. Zealots of all types intrigue me. Annoyance of others is a by-product of dogmatism and zealotry. But the seriousness of these people makes me want to laugh out loud. Now you can select "ignore user" and I will cease to exist in your cozy little world.
Moon

[Gill]

Originally Posted by CanadianScroller

That is a man prerogative, to ignore. We have very selective hearing.

But a wise man has the last word and doesnt use it

But only when men are in conversations with women! When men talk to men, they love a chance to gain the upper hand and say the most trivial things, just to have the last word. For example:

1st man: "There's nothing more to say on the matter."
2nd man: "Not really."
1st man: "So we'll leave at that."
2nd man: "Okay."
1st man: "Hmmm..."



Gill

PS Just because I haven't responded to your post, Moon, doesn't mean I'm ignoring you. Unfortunately, I've just got nothing dogmatic or zealous to say right now .

[SharonW0111]

Is being a zealot good or bad ?? I was going to be quiet and show how wise ( Laughter out loud on that ) I am..But I don't know what a zealot is and I think I was flattered but then agqin -- I could be wrong-
Won't be the first time- --surely isn't going to be the last --
Sharon

[CanadianScroller]

bleeding tongue

[SharonW0111]

oohhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!