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09-24-2006, 09:28 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 869
| Using velvet I have always used 1/8" luan plywood stained or painted as a backer for my portrait or scenery cuttings. I am working on Jeff Zaffino's "Fishing the Dawn" two loons on the water and would like to use black velvet as a backer. Would like some ideas as to how to attach it to my backer board and would I glue the cutting to the velvet? I don't intend to cover it with glass.
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09-24-2006, 09:59 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hamilton Ontario
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| Mick, I use felt when I line the drawers of my chess boxes, I think velvet would work the same way. I use spray adhesive to glue the felt in, I spray the adhesive on the wood not on the fabric. I would also use the adhesive for gluing the fretwork to the backer board, but spray the wood not the fabric.
Just my $.02 worth
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09-24-2006, 10:33 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Janesville, WI
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| Marsha, thank you for the quick reply.
Now I will reveal my secret as to how to make a ¢ sign. Hold the Alt button and 0162 you will get a ¢, if you want a degree sign you hold the Alt button and 0176 and you get °. Just my 2¢ worth.
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09-24-2006, 10:36 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
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| I would glue it like Marsha too, but I would glue the velvet to to its own board if it is going in a frame . Therefore you could always change the background if it did not fit the room. I would not put a glass in the frame as I would not want the glass to stick on the finish of the wood. If you want to put a glass in front go to a place that sells frames and pick up spacers so the cutting is not directly on the glass.
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09-24-2006, 11:18 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hemet, CA
Posts: 354
| I agree with Marsha on attaching your backer of choice to the board. The only difference is I like to spray the board and the backside of the felt for a stronger hold. I then spray the backside of the project, let it set for about 30 seconds, then spray it again just before attaching it to the backer board. I prefer to spray twice rather than use one heavy coat because I'm sort of clumsy and sometimes slide it around and smear the glue onto the felt between the frets.
You can also experiment with different materials. I haven't used velvet before, but it sounds interesting. I have used felt, fun foam, tissue paper, plain printer paper (if I want a white background), and even spray paint on the backerboard. They all work fine, and I've only had one project come apart as the backer board started to warp over time. It was already framed so I just put some wood glue in the area around the backer board and the frame and clamped them until dry. I also put in a few glazing clips into the back just in case the glue gave way again.
Now that you got me thinking of using velvet I'm going to have to make that Elvis portrait I've been putting off. 
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09-24-2006, 11:26 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beautiful Southern Oregon
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| What I use for backings that look like velvet is the felt sheets that sell at Wal-mart for arounf 22 cents (the alt and numbers don't work for me.) And I always use glass in my frames. It seems like folks like to touch things and it is a lot easier to take fingerprints off glass rather than your project and then there is dust. Dust is very had to get off anything that is back there including a black painted board. As far as the glass sticking to the project I can't see any reason why it would have to be taken apart. I usually use dark colors or colors that go with the picture, not what fits the decor of the room.
Just a Thought 
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09-24-2006, 11:37 PM
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| I was looking at the using suede cloth from Joanne's - I suspect it would be treated the same. I thought it might give a sort of Western flavor to the cutting. Then again, it may look a lot like felt, since it is in the background shadows. Sandy alt 162=ó alt 176=░ There must be some other factors at work here. |
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09-25-2006, 12:24 AM
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#8 | | Grumpy Old Moderator
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| I've used Aleene's tacky glue in the brown bottle with good results on velvet.
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09-25-2006, 12:52 AM
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#9 | | Hi-tech Redneck
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Youngsville NC
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| I use felt squares like Chuck D and glue them directly to the backer that comes with the frame. I spray the backer, not the felt and then trim the excess when it is dry ...... ¢ ¢ Hey it worked ! ![005[1]](http://www.scrollsawer.com/forum/images/smilies/005[1].gif)
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09-25-2006, 01:31 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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| If you are spraying glue directly to the back of the wood what keeps the glue from getting into all of the frets? I put flat black matt board behind my projects. If I would use velvet I would put it on a separate backer board.
Even using Ailenes how do you control where it goes.?
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