Sorrento

[greatdane2]

What can you say after seeing those pics? That is artistry on a huge scale, I am not even going to pretend to make something like that in this lifetime.
I sure hope the people working there are paid a lot of money. This stuff should be in that auction in London, beats the hell out of cig butts.
Thanks for the pics. I am just starting a new project and am finding it slow going to get the fit right, but seeing these pics I will shut up and go back out to the shop.

Alan.

[minowevie]

Originally Posted by greatdane2

What can you say after seeing those pics? That is artistry on a huge scale, I am not even going to pretend to make something like that in this lifetime.
I sure hope the people working there are paid a lot of money. This stuff should be in that auction in London, beats the hell out of cig butts.
Thanks for the pics. I am just starting a new project and am finding it slow going to get the fit right, but seeing these pics I will shut up and go back out to the shop.

Alan.

Right on Alan, there is no butts about it. this is art in its finest. Evie

[Gill]

Originally Posted by greatdane2

What can you say after seeing those pics? That is artistry on a huge scale, I am not even going to pretend to make something like that in this lifetime.
I sure hope the people working there are paid a lot of money. This stuff should be in that auction in London, beats the hell out of cig butts.

I quite agree. Just look at this detail on the table:



I think my sister said the whole dining suite was on sale for €15,000 which makes it an absolute snip compared to a lot of stuff that passes as 'art' nowadays. Moreover, I'd love to have a piece like that in my home!

Here's some more piccies:







Gill

[greatdane2]

There is now way I would want that in my house, I would be a nervous wreck trying to keep it from being harmed.

Alan.

[minowevie]

Gill, this work is so exsacked, do you think it was done on a laser? YIKES< I am holding my hands over my head, not wonting the Gill arms to crush me. but really. I have looked this over alot. and can't find how they did this on a scrollsaw. if they did. wow. if the did it on a laser, still wow. don't cair I wont it in my dinning room for sure. heck I don't cair, I will put some plexie over it to protect it. just beautifull. for sure. say I wont the cabnets too. all of them. I will build. to get them in. your friend Evie

[Gill]

The photo of the fret saw is a little clue, Evie .

I want to go to Sorrento one day and see exactly how they do it. They've been making quality marquetry and inlay there for centuries using saws. Lasers just don't come into it. Apparently, it's not unusual for an artisan to spend eighteen months working on one project. But how can you apply marquetry to curved surfaces? I know vacuum presses are available nowadays, but they're a recent development. I want to know how it was done in the past. I also want to know how the artisans of Sorrento inlay such large, flimsy veneers. Perhaps our friendly, intrepid technical editor needs to investigate - what marvellous material it would be for our favorite magazine!

Sometimes I think we need to be reminded there are people from other cultures and traditions who have so much to teach us. For instance, I'd also love to visit the Boulle school in France one day.

Gill

[minowevie]

Originally Posted by Gill

The photo of the fret saw is a little clue, Evie .

I want to go to Sorrento one day and see exactly how they do it. They've been making quality marquetry and inlay there for centuries using saws. Lasers just don't come into it. Apparently, it's not unusual for an artisan to spend eighteen months working on one project. But how can you apply marquetry to curved surfaces? I know vacuum presses are available nowadays, but they're a recent development. I want to know how it was done in the past. I also want to know how the artisans of Sorrento inlay such large, flimsy veneers. Perhaps our friendly, intrepid technical editor needs to investigate - what marvellous material it would be for our favorite magazine!

Sometimes I think we need to be reminded there are people from other cultures and traditions who have so much to teach us. For instance, I'd also love to visit the Boulle school in France one day.

Gill

Gill ya I did see the saw. and to my amazment, I just can't figur how they got those wonderfull pieces ,in a table that big. I looked and looked and can not find where, they might have cut the venier of the top to put in a scrollsaw. if they did.specialy that c arm, doesn't look very deep throuted to me. that is some pretty good glueing up. I am with you all the way, I to would LOVE to learn how the heck they did this awsome work, do you think there might have been a differant scrollsaw involved? just for the table I mean. not the boxes. maybe one like your dimon saw. that is alot of turning, or did they use something like a scroll blade.? I just wont to know. I am not being a poop butt. just wont to know . I just don't see how they can put a big table like that in a scrollsaw. and or cut it up and not show the glue ups. but then there was God. or the laser.or carving your friend Evie

[Tor]

Those tables are quite something, as is the rest too. I find the pattern works like the tables most impressive, at least looking at what it takes to get it right.

Evie, that isn't actually a C-arm saw, although it looks like one. I'd love to have one of those with an ~17 degree bevel on the arms and a 60" throat. Now that would quite the marquetry saw. No front/back blade travel (unless you wanted it) and all the throat you could want. I also think that saw could have rotatable blade holders making extra sized pieces possible, as long as they are cut flat. As for the table, I would be very surprised if there are no joints in the background. I am not certain of how many pieces are in this table, but it looks like there may be only eight, with the lines on the bold flowers. A small number for a table of the size this seems to be.

Gill, on application to curved surfaces, that should be pretty much identical to flat veneering if you are using hot hide glue. Of course this is for a single curved surface. Double curved surfaces would take a bit more, but should be readily doable if the warp isn't too great. What you would run into there is pieces separating or running atop each other, which would be a Bad Thing.

Is that a multi veneer pad I see on the saw? Or is it simply making a number of pieces to go into something like the table, cut all at once for uniformity? I personally don't use thick pads because I prefer to be able to see each piece I cut, with windows as I need to.

Tor

[Gill]

Originally Posted by Tor

Gill, on application to curved surfaces, that should be pretty much identical to flat veneering if you are using hot hide glue. Of course this is for a single curved surface. Double curved surfaces would take a bit more, but should be readily doable if the warp isn't too great. What you would run into there is pieces separating or running atop each other, which would be a Bad Thing

You make it sound so simple, Tor!



Gill