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06-14-2008, 05:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Surprise, Arizona
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| mounting a completed work I just finished my first nice piece. It's fairly deligate so I need some mounting questions answered. The piece is 11x14. My frame will be about 14x17 matted. I was going to take a piece of luan 14x17 and glue felt to it. Then do I just use a ton of little drops of glue to mount the piece to the felt? That's where I'm lost. It makes sense but since this is my first help! What kind of glue to hold to the felt. Any reason not to use spray glue? That would be my preference partially because of numb hands and partially then I know all the wood fretwork is glued down. Do you use glass? I would use non-glare if I do.
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06-14-2008, 05:54 PM
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Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Mexico (they renovated the old one)
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| Aleen's Tacky glue works well for felt. The method I use comes from several of Jeff Z's tips. Find a flat piece of scrap (11x14 or larger), cover it with wax paper and stretch your felt over the scrap holding it in place with spring clamps. Apply the tacky glue to the back of your work and place directly on the felt. Hold in place with weights, more clamps or whatever you have that won't marr the work.
Stretching it over the board also helps elminate wrinkles and gives you opportunity to remove lint with a roller.
P.S. You can also use spray adhesive on the back of your work, but the chance of over spray is not worth it.
Brian
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06-14-2008, 08:14 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK
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| Aileen's tacky glue is just PVA (polyvinyl acetate) and can be bought much cheaper in huge quantities. It sticks wood, paper and will stick felt, like you say it requires care - lots of little sparing blobs and you need to be quick so that it does not dry out before you clamp it down.
Spray glue should work OK, but you need to be careful not to get any on the front.
As for the frame, I rarely use glass, people like to touch wood (make sure you use a finish for protection). You say that it is very delicate, the glue should hold all the pieces down, but if you really want to use glass, you need to get "picture glass", which is thin and non-glare - as you correctly say!
Please show us your finished piece when it is completed!
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06-15-2008, 12:57 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: california
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| I use a makup spoung. and dab the glue on the back of the project. being cairfull not to put to much. so it doesn't smooch out. you can also use your fingure to dab with. wiping it often, and don't press to hard. it is just to hold the fabric on,I would also. first. spray addhisive the fabic on the backer board, pooling it tight. you can cut the left over later. then do the first thing. I said. good luck. your friend Evie |
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06-15-2008, 10:11 AM
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#5 | | Sawdust Maker
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Massachusetts
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| Evie, what a great idea to use a makeup sponge!
I've seen big packs of those disposable ones at Walgreens/CVS and I never could figure out why anyone would ever need that many.
Now I know.
Thanks for the tip!
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06-15-2008, 09:28 PM
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| [quote=Gaia;125598]Evie, what a great idea to use a makeup sponge!
I've seen big packs of those disposable ones at Walgreens/CVS and I never could figure out why anyone would ever need that many.
Now I know.
Bobbie. I use alot of them, I also use them for taking the pattern off my wood. I don't use tape on my projects, I just spray the back of the pattern. and put it on the sanded wood. then it stays along time. then when cut. I use the makeup spong to remove them . poring mineral spirits on the spong. and it doesn't drip. and dab it on the pattern. letting it stay for a few minuts, the take it right off the wood. then again with the make up spong. with mineral spirits. rub the rest the glue off. you can use them over and over. and even wash them out. beets scrapping the pattens off with something sharp. it just lifts them and gives a soft but hard enough scrapper to get the rest off. glad you like my idea. your friend Evie |
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06-17-2008, 03:30 AM
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| If it was me, I'd use my finger and apply wood glue to the fretwork piece, a nice thin layer works well and minimizes squeeze out, then place the luan backer (with felt already stretched and glued) to it. Clamp in as many places as possible, or place a heavy weight on top of it and let it dry. That's my opinion, but my opinion isn't worth much these days, gasoline has me beat,lol
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06-17-2008, 04:03 AM
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| I thought for sure that I had put in an answer to this earlier, but now I don't see it here. Well that being the case, here I go again.
I have done quite a bit of fretwork lately that I have framed. In the past I've done some that I didn't put glass on, but the problem there is the dust builds up in the work and becomes nearly impossible to get out. That being said, you can guess that I now put glass on all my framed fretwork.
A frame with glass, I don't even bother gluing the work to the backer unless I absolutely have to. I "pinch" the work between the glass and the backer and nobody ever knows the difference. I avoid any squeeze out problems like that and can always change the back ground if my wife or customer wants something different.
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06-17-2008, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: california
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzleloader If it was me, I'd use my finger and apply wood glue to the fretwork piece, a nice thin layer works well and minimizes squeeze out, then place the luan backer (with felt already stretched and glued) to it. Clamp in as many places as possible, or place a heavy weight on top of it and let it dry. That's my opinion, but my opinion isn't worth much these days, gasoline has me beat,lol | I so agree. but sometimes those dang old clamps just are not long inouph to clamp the insides of the work. so again what I do. is put a piece of wood. like a 1/2" or what ever on the piece. and then clamp the whole thing. or another thing is a piece of 1/4" plywood. over the top of the whole thing. and put a milk jug filled with sand, to make a weight. and place that on top. I also use these milk jugs, filed with sand to weight many things. or even smaller jars, filled with dirt or sand, or even water. they make great weights. your freind Evie |
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