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08-21-2008, 09:22 PM
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#1 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bell Buckle, Tennessee
Posts: 12
| Pattern Gluing Question I saw a comment somewhere where someone used packing tape and then glued the pattern on top. Does that work well? I use the packing tape but glue the pattern 1st. Sometimes difficult to get off.
Also does the glue stick hold well?
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08-21-2008, 09:28 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: california
Posts: 4,730
| Tnirish. I am one of the probley only ones hear that don't use tape at all. I just spray my pattern, and put it right on the sanded wood. and spray alot. I don't let it dry at all. just me, I don't wont that puppy to come off at all. then when cut, I just use minera spirits to get it off. I use a makup spoung to dab the pattern with mineral spirits, let it sock for a minut or 3 then it just lefts right off. any left on glue, can be dabbed again, and wiped right off. if you get the wood to wet. I use a hair dryer to dry the wood. so I can go right to the palm sander, and smooth it out. this is cheap, and works fast for me. hope this helps. your friend Evie.
I forgot to add, I use 3m45 adhisive spray. works great. 3m77 is abit slimmy, and doesn't dry as quick. fomes up to. Me.
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08-21-2008, 09:34 PM
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#3 | | Member
Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: central illinois
Posts: 49
| I personally use rubber cement then only use tape after on the hardest woods or if I am stack cutting.
Try all the different ways and use what works best for you. |
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08-22-2008, 02:47 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Michigan
Posts: 888
| I don't use tape either.
I usually just use a glue stick to hold my patterns down. If you don't get it heavy enough the edges will come up. I just keep a glue stick next to the saw for when that happens.
But... I don't do the real detailed fretwork pattens either -
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08-22-2008, 04:07 AM
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#5 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin
Posts: 4,279
| I think it works well.I sand my board with 180 or 220 grit (whatevers handy), and wipe off the dust (usually with my shirt, cuz its handy),then apply clear packing tape to the wood.Use the cheap clear tape like from Harbor freight, or the dollar store.The Duck brand stuff sticks to well, and doesnt come off as easily or cleanly.Then I apply pattern directly on the tape by coating the patterns back side with 3M super 77 spray adhesive.My pattern never comes off the tape, and the tape peels off pretty cleanly and easily after cutting.Then all thats left is a light sanding with 220 grit just to be sure there isnt any gooeyness that might have come off onto the wood (although there usually isnt any at all), and your ready for finishing. No mineral spirits mess to deal with. Experiment a little, and see what method works best for you.
I have a few sheets of the Wonder Paper to try out and I plan to try that out on the next project I start, when I do, I'll give my thoughts on that as well .
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08-22-2008, 05:36 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northern Edge of the Great Sonoran Desert
Posts: 158
| Every time we have this question I love reading all the different answers! I think the difference between scrollers and politicians is that scrollers don't hold a grudge just because someone else does the same thing . . . . only different.
I have tried blue tape, clear tape, spray on, flour & water paste, and the rubber cement. Pardon my pun, but I got 'stuck' on the rubber cement. I have been using that technique nearly exclusively for the past several years. But, when I don't use the rubber cement I use the spray on.
Good luck
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08-22-2008, 05:49 AM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Posts: 426
| Normally I use blue tape and glue the pattern on it, sometimes I will put clear over it. I find that technique works well with me. Sometimes I do glue the pattern direct to the wood and use a little mineral spirits or a hair dryer to remove.
Ran out of 3M 77 spray glue and picked up a glue stick to give a try. Up side, like Theresa said, it's convenient to have right there just in case the pattern gets loose. Down side, the stuff I picked up just doesn't like to come off easily when it's directly on the wood. Sooo I stick to blue tape first.
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08-22-2008, 10:30 AM
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#8 | | robinnest
Join Date: May 2007 Location: iowa
Posts: 12
| Blue tape work well for me also. I found a 3 inch wide roll and really speeds up taping time. |
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08-22-2008, 10:56 AM
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#9 | | 1 Tin Soldier Rides Away
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kalgoorlie, Western Australia
Posts: 2,722
| G'day all,
I usually just use a good quality glue stick and whack the pattern straight onto the timber. I then sand the pattern of. Most of my work is done on timber 12mm or thicker.
If I'm doing fine work on ply or thinner timber I put down the blue or purple masking tape and then using the same glue stick, glue the pattern onto that. |
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08-22-2008, 02:32 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hamilton Ontario
Posts: 988
| I only use Elmer's spray adhesive to stick the pattern down and usually I stick the pattern right on the wood.
The exceptions are, stack cutting: when I stack cut such as ornaments, I wrap the layers of wood in masking tape to hold the bundle together, I use the spray adhesive to stick the pattern to the tape. I've never had a problem removing masking tape so I've never tried the colored painters tape.
Also when I'm compound cutting I stick the pattern directly on the wood, then wrap the wood in clear packing tape.
To remove the pattern from the wood, on larger projects I use a hair blower, then a bit of sanding. On smaller projects I put them in the micro wave oven usually for 25 seconds and the pattern peels right off, again a bit of sanding to remove any residue.
Oh I know lots of you think the micro wave disturbs the characteristics of the wood, but I've used this method for months and never seen any ill effects.
I tried a glue stick once and had a terrible time getting the pattern off my project, I ended up using warm vinegar and this removed the pattern and the glue quite nicely.
I don't use much mineral spirits, it gives me a sore throat, and tremendous headache.
Marsha
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