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Old 01-08-2013, 06:15 AM   #1
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I am going to start my first bowl this weekend. One question though, is it better to do a pattern then attatch it to the board, or to draw the circles directly on the board?

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I just did an oval box... but that didn't have the tilted (degree) on the blade. I still want to try a bowl of some kind.

Good luck and I look forward to seeing your finished bowl.
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The choice is up to you, however if you lay down a layer of that blue painters tape and then put the pattern down on top of that the blade will have less of a tenancy to burn the wood.

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If you use ScrollMania! there is a pattern design program, Polydraw, and an Angle Calculator. You can make shapes other than round. A compass also works. I get better results with Polydraw.
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I have made bowls both with a pattern and drawing lines myself....not just circles...sometimes ovals and square. I guess it will depend on what works best for you...try both ways.
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I got the cutout and gluing done yesterday. A couple of hiccups along the way, most with the scroll saw blade. Except for a couple drill marks (I had to change blades and all I had was a thicker one) bowl came out well. I dont think I will be able to get one of the drill marks out. Now, on to sanding the inside and gluing the bottom on and final sanding. A few lessons learned, but all in all, it is turning out well. This is my first real scroll saw project except for cutting out some pinewood derby cars.

Lessons learned:

I struggled with the blade for awhile (first time using pinless) but I think that now I have that part figured out. At first, I was trying to tension the blade with the tensioner unlocked, now I will do that locked. Also, i now have my saw adjusted so that the blade sits against the bottom and top of the blade holders which is working well.

Drilling my holes, I didnt start them with an awl first, so I had a little bit of bit wander

Things that went well:

I did my design in Microsoft Visio, and my oval bowl pattern was spot on, and all of the cuts turned out well and were spot on

I used painters tape on my board first, then glued my pattern down followed by clear packing tape, and this also worked out very well.

Right now I have a cheap Ryobi bench sander that doesnt sand true on the belt, so I used the disk, and the sides of the bowl sanded down very well using 150 grit

Today, I am going to pick up a sanding drum for my drill press (I cant seem to locate a sanding ball that isnt priced out of sight) and get the inside sanded so I can get the base glued on tonight. Any recommendations on where to purchase a sanding ball?

All in all, I am hooked, and cant wait to move on to the next project. I think my next garage purchase is going to be a surface planer (recommendations?) so I can start working with some different types of patterns. I will get some pictures posted later.

Thanks for everyone's input!
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Sounds like things are going well. I am still in the process on mine.

Lessons:
1. Used drill bits that were too large. Learned from this and have used smaller bit successfully on some fretwork in another project,
2. Sanding - lot o' work. I bought the Rigid Spindle Sander, and while it is helping sand the outside, the way the table tilts/folds will prevent it helping for the inside.
3. I have purchased the Guinevere sander but have not tried it yet.
4. Finally, keep track of the bowl bottom! I put it aside when I glued the sides and have not seen it since.
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What kind of scroll saw do you have Steve?
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The Rigid Spindle/Belt sander will sand the inside and outside. Depending on wood thickness, about 3 rings is the limit..

Drill the entry holes on the outside of the widest ring, and a bit inside on the narrowest ring, and about centered for the rest. Before you tilt the table on the drill press, drill about a 1mm deep hole for each ring hole. Makes it easier to get a somewhat true drill hole.

The care in sanding item is pay attention to the bottom ring thickness that you need to glue to the bottom. I have been known to sand it into oblivion, fro which I was awarded a T-shirt and a reverse Attaboy..
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If you're just starting to make bowls, you might find my bowl videos helpful.

Fox Chapel has one on its website for making a basic bowl, and I have a number of them on YouTube (scrollergirl is my channel) on various aspects of the process. I tried to target the areas that tend to be most problematic, and hope that it helps prevent unnecessary grief and "designer firewood".
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