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02-10-2007, 12:33 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey
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 |  Loose pattern I had no idea what to put for the title. I'm cutting an 8x10 picture which has lots of little intricate areas. Some of the smaller areas are going fine but areas that are a little larger are giving me trouble. The pattern is coming off the wood when I'm about 3/4 of the way done cutting that area. Sometimes the paper is just flapping away and I can't even see where I'm cutting. I'm really stuck because I cut several areas so far and have tried to peel off the pattern to see if I could possibly reglue it but most of the pattern is stuck on really good. Any suggestions?
__________________ Mia We are the music makers. We are the dreamers of dreams. Easy scrollin' with a DW788 |
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02-10-2007, 12:45 AM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Independence, Ky
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| Several things could have caused the pattern not to stick: dirty or greasy splotch on the wood or, presuming you used spray adhesive, that area may not have gotten the glue. I'm sold on the blue painter's tape idea and put it on the wood first then attach the pattern to the tape. Then, if I get one of those nasty flappy things, I use a glue stick and press on with my work.
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02-10-2007, 12:47 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA
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| Short of using clear tape on the loose areas I don't know what you can do to salvage your cutting. Future work: make sure all the sawdust is removed before attaching the pattern, if you are applying the glue to the wood, stop. It should be sprayed on the pattern. When spraying the pattern make sure you apply a good even coat. Let it get a bit tacky before attaching the pattern to the wood. Maybe 20-30 seconds.
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02-10-2007, 01:25 AM
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| Newly Customized Moose  Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Truro, Nova Scotia
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 | I've managed to reglue small sections that have lifted by putting a touch of glue on an old blade and slipping it under the pattern - other than that Mike's idea of packing tape is what I would have suggested. The only problem with wrapping the whole thing with packing tape is that the reflection from it when you're cutting is a pain ..
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02-10-2007, 01:31 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK
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| I've been using adhesive film of the sort sold for protecting book covers, for sticking patterns onto the picture surface of a jigsaw puzzle. (You need to weaken the adhesive by sticking it onto and peeling it off a piece of wood a few times first). This stuff sticks well to wood and I would think it works very much like packing tape. Since it comes in wide rolls it might be easier to use than packing tape. You glue the plan to the film and then peel away the backing paper to stick it to the workpiece. Anybody tried it for portraits etc?
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02-10-2007, 01:51 AM
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| Fallen Angel Join Date: Mar 2005
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| In my experience, when a little piece of pattern begins to flap it lifts the rest of the pattern which is actually securely adhered in position. It's hardly surprising, because we do use adhesives that are designed to be peeled back! To overcome this, I try to contain the 'peelback'. So I've made a tool to do this by taking an old broken blade and gluing it to a scrap of wood with epoxy. The wood is the handle and the broken blade is my pattern hold-down. At the first sign of peeling I use this simple tool to hold the pattern down whilst I'm cutting. It's surprising how effective it is. The tool has another use in that it can be used to prod pieces out of tight holes. Gill
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02-10-2007, 02:05 PM
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| Master Scroller  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan
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| What about scoring the pattern with a very sharp utility knife where it's lifting? Then the paper will not be tugged on by the sawblade because you'll be cutting outside the score line?
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02-10-2007, 02:12 PM
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02-10-2007, 02:20 PM
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| Master Scroller Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan
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| sure, no problem, it just came to me...I dont have that much experience with fretwork patterns, but I use that technique when cutting dadoes in plywood. I use a ruler and score the plywood before cutting the dado and then no tearout happens.
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02-11-2007, 02:39 AM
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| what i do if that happens is just rearrange my fingers so they are holding the pattern in place as i cut.After cutting that section, I use a bit of scotch tape to hold it back together Dale |
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