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Old 02-05-2011, 12:40 PM   #1
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For the people following my previous threads about the 2 craftsmen saws that where junk. Well I finally got some money in the bank and ordered a EX - 16. Tracking say it should arrive next Tuesday. I hat that feeling where you got to wait for something. When this saw is set up I got a lot of extra pine boards that I will be using to get the hang of it again. After I get the hang of it I am going to try to make a clock out of cherry and red oak and a shelf for it to sit on out of Baltic birch. I am curious what blades you would for these wood I know I got to experiment to find what works for me best but, I would like to have a start off point where I can narrow some blades down. I will put the width down below with type of wood. If you have scrolled this stuff before and know blade of blades I should try please let me know.

3/4 Red oak
1/2 Red oak
3/8 Red oak

3/8 Cherry

1/4 BB ply

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Old 02-05-2011, 02:31 PM   #2
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On using pine, keep in mind that it is very soft wood, until you hit the line grain in it. Some of it is a lot harder and then when it goes through the blade tends to take off and cut faster. Poplar is a much better choice for practicing and not much more expensive to buy. Just a hint to maybe help learn. The poplar cuts more like the hardwoods. And I buy some blades from PS Wood Machines. Their blades come in a holder mounted to cardboard. On the back is a chart for what blades to use on each thickness. Blades are extra sharp, too. I hope this helps a little.
#9, #11
#5, #7
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This should help somewhat. Also Mike's Workshop sells Flying Dutchman blades, good. Or several places sell Olsen blades, which work good, also.
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Those woods you mentioned I'd be using a #7 Ultra reverse from the flying dutchman. You may be able to use a #5 UR on the 1/2 inch maybe even a #3 but some of that goes with experience as well.

On the BB I'd be using a #3 UR on that one maybe a little smaller if I had them on hand. You can go all the way down the the superior puzzle blades on the 1/4" so what ever size you are comfortable with.
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Just remember that different people use different techniques and not everything that works for one will work for another. Experiement and try different things until you are an expert like all the rest of us. Just enjoy and you will learn and get good.
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I hardly ever use a blade bigger than #7, then it just depends on my mood after that.
I have no guideline on what to use.
But they are all FD blades that I use.

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I hardly ever use a blade bigger than #7, then it just depends on my mood after that.
I have no guideline on what to use.
But they are all FD blades that I use.

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This is what I just sent to a new customer.
Most blades have a little burr on the right side what makes them cut to the right. To stay on the line you have to move your wood some degree to the right.
The FD-UR does not have this and again easier to control. It is a skip tooth blade and more aggressive as a double tooth blade, like the FD-PSR or FD-PS this one has no reverse teeth but leaves fuzz on the bottom.
What blades to use depends a lot on the pattern you want to cut and how thick the wood is. 1/4" a # 1 or 3. 1/2" a # 3 or 5. 3/4" a # 5 or # 7.
It does not matter what kind of wood. Hard wood cut slower than soft wood. These are the basic point to remember.
Have good tension, the blade should not move sideways more than 1/8" and that is almost too much. Have good speed if not you might start pushing too hard into the blade and it will starts to cut with a bevel. Scroll sawing takes patience, let the blade do the cutting.
Soft wood will let the blade cut faster. No problem, just slow the pushing in to the blade down. Most people will slow the speed down maybe a little. There are places that you might the speed down but remember the pushing into the blade.
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I mostly cut fretwork from hardwood using a #2 blade from PS Wood. This is an aggressive blade, so I use slower speeds to cut thinner boards. My latest project used both 1/8 & 3/4 black walnut. I just adjust the speed & kept cutting with the same #2 blade. I use this small of a blade because I cut very detailed projects with very little room for error.
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As all of the entries point out everybody is a bit different and a lot the same. I use FD blades and trust mike's suggestions. I have an EX16 and find that machine cuts so much better than my old Craftsman I can use almost any kind of blade and cut better than I had in the past. I find that the blade runs so true I can use smaller blades than I did before. All of this said, fasten you saw nice and solid to a sturdy table, bench or stand and practice practice practice. I use blades ranging from #0 thru #7 and learn new things daily. Stand up puzzles made out of hard woods 3/4" thick I use a #5 reverse tooth FD blade with a great finish on the cut, no sanding required. Cutting soft woods pine for example cut so easy I will use a #3. For 1/4" BB I use a FD puzzle blade. Enjoy your new saw, watch the forum here for tune up recommendations, blade alignment for example.
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I always wonder why people use such large blades unless the projects dont have much detail. As you can see we all have our favorites and blade discussions in the past got a bit heated. It is almost as bad as asking what is the best saw.
I started with Olson blades and got used to them and they are still my blade of prefference.For most of my projects I use the Mach series #3 occasionaly I will go to a PGT5. But for the fine stuff I like to cut (ornaments stacked to 1/2 in) I will use a 2 or 2/0
A suggestion for the Cherry put a layer of packing or blue tape under your pattern it will reduce the burning caused by the pitch pockets in the cherry.
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