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RJTSR3 · 07-04-2009, 05:34 PM

Looking for a way to cut same pattern over and over with scroll or band saw. Any tools or attachments out there?
RJ

Gill · 07-04-2009, 06:15 PM

Is there any reason why you're looking to undertake this task with tools other than a router fitted with a template following bit?

joez71 · 07-04-2009, 11:46 PM

Rj not sure how detailed the template is but maybe something like this, is the way to go?

Bandsaw Device

joez71

unixpro · 07-05-2009, 02:45 AM

That's a pretty sweet little unit there, Joez71. Any idea what those things go for?

RJ, I've never heard of any kind of a template unit for scroll saws. I suppose you might be able to manufacture something, but I'd think it would need to be from metal, since the blade *will* come in contact with the sides, at least in any incarnation I can envision.

The big guys solved the issue with lasers. They're expensive and most of us feel that using one isn't really woodworking, but they do offer complete repeatability of a pattern. Further, you don't have to drill pilot holes.

joez71 · 07-05-2009, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixpro

That's a pretty sweet little unit there, Joez71. Any idea what those things go for?

In Australia, they got for about $500, but i am sure something similar can be made for a lot less.

Thay also make some pretty amazing panel clamps.

joez71

Ramjet · 07-05-2009, 02:22 PM

RJ . I 'm wondering if your not thinking of something along the lines of stack cutting ? Scrollers cut up to 1" or more of the same pattern at once , using a variety of methods to attach the pattern and wood .
Roger

georgewoodie · 07-09-2009, 04:48 PM

rjtsr3:

I am not sure what you are looking for exactly but here are several ways I use to make repeat cuts.

1 For small objects [about 2 inches square] I draw one master and then photocopy as many as I wish to cut. Attach them to your wood blank[s] in the usual way. Cut.

2 For larger objects, I cut a pattern from clear plastic about 1/8 inch thick. On this plastic master, I note any memos I need for further cuts, holes or what ever. Now with the clear patter [or template if you will] I can see the wood, not only where I will be cutting, but where I must drill or otherwise deal with. I can move my template a bit to accommodate knots or other grain patterns as I wish. When I am satisfied with the future look of my project, I trace with a pencil and can then cut.

Many times I will want to make identical parts for one project. In that case, I will stack trim after cutting each [larger item] out of my stock. To stack trim, I will connect my project pieces by screwing a scrap piece to my project parts where the holes will not show after final assembly. Now with my parts held together, I can sand or trim further and the those parts temporarily joined will be very much identical to each other. Where I can not use screws, I can tape the parts together to stack and hold them, sand all except for the taped locations, retape at new places and complete the sanding.

Each year I make a couple of doll cribs that I give away and use this method for cutting the upper and lower rails as well as the head and foot boards. Works fine for me.

I hope this is of some help.

Woodie

CanadianScroller · 07-10-2009, 03:58 AM

I like Gills suggestion.
I did at one time make a jig for my scrollsaw that used a spiral blade to follow a template. It wasnt too successful, the blade had too much play.
It did work but after the third or forth cut it just wasnt accurate enough.
Honestly the router is the way to go. I have seen bandsaw jigs but the finished product usually needs sanding or refinishing anyway.

campasano · 07-12-2009, 04:31 PM

It is sold by Ideal Tools in Australia, The complete package cost $560.00 and they state that they can only ship within Australia.

Mike

WOODDULL · 07-15-2009, 02:26 AM

THE OLD WAY IS MORE FUN TO ME AFTER ALL ITS JUST A HOBBY FOR ME NO RUSH.

07-04-2009, 05:34 PM	#1
RJTSR3 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1	Templates, duplicators "etc" Looking for a way to cut same pattern over and over with scroll or band saw. Any tools or attachments out there? RJ

07-04-2009, 06:15 PM	#2
Gill Fallen Angel Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,629	Is there any reason why you're looking to undertake this task with tools other than a router fitted with a template following bit? __________________ There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is readily adopted. (Schopenhauer, Die Kunst Recht zu Behalten)

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07-04-2009, 11:46 PM	#3
joez71 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 21	Rj not sure how detailed the template is but maybe something like this, is the way to go? Bandsaw Device joez71

07-05-2009, 02:45 AM	#4
unixpro I need more weekend Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greater Seattle Area Posts: 661	That's a pretty sweet little unit there, Joez71. Any idea what those things go for? RJ, I've never heard of any kind of a template unit for scroll saws. I suppose you might be able to manufacture something, but I'd think it would need to be from metal, since the blade will come in contact with the sides, at least in any incarnation I can envision. The big guys solved the issue with lasers. They're expensive and most of us feel that using one isn't really woodworking, but they do offer complete repeatability of a pattern. Further, you don't have to drill pilot holes.

07-05-2009, 02:22 PM	#6
Ramjet Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Saltspring Island B.C. Canada Posts: 1,120	RJ . I 'm wondering if your not thinking of something along the lines of stack cutting ? Scrollers cut up to 1" or more of the same pattern at once , using a variety of methods to attach the pattern and wood . Roger

07-09-2009, 04:48 PM	#7
georgewoodie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 164	rjtsr3: I am not sure what you are looking for exactly but here are several ways I use to make repeat cuts. 1 For small objects [about 2 inches square] I draw one master and then photocopy as many as I wish to cut. Attach them to your wood blank[s] in the usual way. Cut. 2 For larger objects, I cut a pattern from clear plastic about 1/8 inch thick. On this plastic master, I note any memos I need for further cuts, holes or what ever. Now with the clear patter [or template if you will] I can see the wood, not only where I will be cutting, but where I must drill or otherwise deal with. I can move my template a bit to accommodate knots or other grain patterns as I wish. When I am satisfied with the future look of my project, I trace with a pencil and can then cut. Many times I will want to make identical parts for one project. In that case, I will stack trim after cutting each [larger item] out of my stock. To stack trim, I will connect my project pieces by screwing a scrap piece to my project parts where the holes will not show after final assembly. Now with my parts held together, I can sand or trim further and the those parts temporarily joined will be very much identical to each other. Where I can not use screws, I can tape the parts together to stack and hold them, sand all except for the taped locations, retape at new places and complete the sanding. Each year I make a couple of doll cribs that I give away and use this method for cutting the upper and lower rails as well as the head and foot boards. Works fine for me. I hope this is of some help. Woodie

07-12-2009, 04:31 PM	#9
campasano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Citrus Heights,Ca. Posts: 540	It is sold by Ideal Tools in Australia, The complete package cost $560.00 and they state that they can only ship within Australia. Mike

07-15-2009, 02:26 AM	#10
WOODDULL Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 42	THE OLD WAY IS MORE FUN TO ME AFTER ALL ITS JUST A HOBBY FOR ME NO RUSH.