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07-25-2007, 01:46 AM
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#21 | | Set the hook
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Iowa
Posts: 24
| It was great. Thanks so much, Rick. If anyone gets a chance to see Rick and his shop, showroom etc, you should defintely jump at the chance. I learned more in a couple of hours, than reading for a week. Practical stuff that you can't don't get out of book, but through experience.
Now...I went home and putmy saw on the cement floor and it really starts to vibrate anywhere from 800 up, depending on moving it around on the uneven floor. I went to all the local Home Depots etc and none have the three-legged stands. I am going to check the net.
Thanks again, Rick. I went and made turns and curves lickety split. I'll be back to learn more..(if I still have enough fingers)
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07-25-2007, 01:57 AM
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#22 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin
Posts: 4,195
| Suzie, there are plans available online to build yourself a nice sturdy 3 legged stand relatively cheap. If you lack the tools required for such a project, get the plans and contact your local 4H ,scouts, or other club that might have a woodworking group, and possibly you will get help there on cutting materials, construction, ect. Im sure somebody will be able to post a link or point you in the right direction for a nice stand. Dale |
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07-25-2007, 05:37 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,095
| Ok I'm gonna throw in my 2cents I own the 1800 and it is a very good saw also you don't need plyers anywhere on it, I built a stand for my saw out of 2 by 4's and 3/4" ply as the top I put a soft piece of wood under the back legs to lean it forward, Also I put a piece of old carpet under the stand and it makes a big differance in the vibration of the saw.Jerry
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07-25-2007, 06:25 PM
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#24 | | Master Scroller
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan
Posts: 2,171
| Remember too that faster speeds isn't necessarily faster better cutting! I don't think I ever use my saw as fast as 800, probably closer to 300 rpm. Faster could loose some control. More heat is generated which can burn the wood, and the heat dulls the blades faster. A slow speed will likely cut faster because the blade has a chance to remove a larger amount of material for each down stroke.
I saw some stands at home depot this morning, they were using them with some of their dewalt displays. They were 4 leg stands, the legs could fold, a rubbery coated flat table, perfect size for a planer or scrollsaw. 4 legs is as good as 3 assuming your floor is nice and level. the main reason for 3 legs is that the saw will not wobble on an uneaven floor. If you have 4 legs, you can always shim one if necessary. Building your own is of course the most satisfying over the long run. Good luck, glad to hear you had a great time at Rick's.
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07-25-2007, 06:26 PM
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#25 | | Set the hook
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Iowa
Posts: 24
| 1800 stand I have mine on a stand that sounds just like yours, even with a piece of carpet underneath it to dampen the vibration. It did not vibrate that much when it was seated on Rick's table. He recommended a three legged stand, but there is not one made for Dremel and I would like metal.
The only problem is that this is my first saw, and I don't have anything to compare it to. |
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07-29-2007, 01:15 AM
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#26 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio
Posts: 16
| what is a throat plate? |
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07-29-2007, 04:31 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin
Posts: 4,195
| They are refering to the small, usually round disc, most made of a type of plastic, that fits into a recess where the blade goes through the table. Its only on some scrollsaws.I am unsure of its real purpose vs just a smaller hole being machined in the table like on the dewalts. |
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07-29-2007, 02:03 PM
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#28 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grimes, Iowa
Posts: 194
| It makes it easier to make you own zero clearance plates. Then you can replace them as the hole wears out larger.
Another reason is that you can remove it and see the bottom blade clamp, from the top of the saw, instead of having to bend over to look at it from under the table. |
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07-29-2007, 02:58 PM
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#29 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK
Posts: 232
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Originally Posted by Rick H It makes it easier to make you own zero clearance plates. Then you can replace them as the hole wears out larger.
Another reason is that you can remove it and see the bottom blade clamp, from the top of the saw, instead of having to bend over to look at it from under the table. | Also with saws using removable clamps, like Hegner saws, you can insert blade and clamps together instead of having to clamp at the saw arm.
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07-31-2007, 12:00 AM
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#30 | | Set the hook
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Iowa
Posts: 24
| fixed Okay I have solved my problems (I think). The over vibration and severe throat plate intrusion started again after coming back from Rick's. After many a swear words and coming close to chucking the saw, we figured out the allen screws attaching the blade holders to arms had to be retightned. It was causing SEVERE bounce and vibration. This had to be done about every fifteen minutes or so as it would work loose. So we then modified the stand. I could not find a three legged stand I liked for the saw, so we modified the wooden one we already made. Keeping the carpet attached to the top with bolts, we added rubber grommets between the bolts and the carpet. i haven't used it a lot, but this seems to have reduced the vibration and conversely the allen nuts seem to stay tightened. |
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