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kindling · 02-01-2007, 01:41 AM

I just subscribed to this fine magazine, even though I had been buying it off the shelf for some time. I fell in love with the egg in issue 26. I have cut it out twice now, and being about as swift as a red brick I can not get the last step to work. I do the #10 instruction and it looks good. When I attempt to do the #11 gluing the two halves together, because of the curved sides there is a huge gap top and bottom. What am I doing wrong. I took a digital picture, but do not know how to put it into the request.

Thanks Jack

lucky788scroller · 02-01-2007, 03:31 AM

Although I cant help you with your project, iD like to welcome you to the group, Im sure someone here will know exactly what your having trouble with.About posting a picture, if you click "post reply" (not quick reply)you will see a button way down under the message window you type in, that says "manage attachments". click on that and a popup window pops up that says select, or search, or upload, or somthing, once you click that, you should get sent to wherever you store your online photos, or saved files, where you right click and select. once selected, you clock upload on that popped up window thingy, and if your picture isnt to big, it will be attached to your message.I wish I knew a better way to splain it, sorry. Dale

kindling · 02-01-2007, 04:33 AM

Thanks lucky788scroller.

Here goes I hope the picture shows up.

Thanks Jack

BobD · 02-01-2007, 12:11 PM

Hi Jack,
It might take some sanding to get it to fit. Depending on your saw, how accurate the angle guide is, and how much wood the spiral blade removes, it takes some final tweaking.

Since you eventually round all the sharp corners off, you can usually get away with doing some extra sanding to get things to fit tightly.

Best regards,
Bob Duncan
Technical Editor

Dragon · 02-01-2007, 12:18 PM

Welcome to the group. Looks like there is extra wood so I think that Bob is right. Extra sanding on all the panels. You have another nice project at the top of your picture. We'd love to see some of your work.
Diane

CanadianScroller · 02-01-2007, 12:32 PM

After looking at your photo it seems that the angle of the saw table is slightly less than it should be, If the saw is of by one degree there are a total of 12 sides so the finished object will be off by 12 degrees. That would show up as gaps in the egg.

If the angle was larger than it should be then the center of the egg would connect but the outer edges would have gaps.

Try checking the angle again

Hope this helps

kindling · 02-01-2007, 10:37 PM

Thanks for all your advice. I am going to try again, and will let you all know why I chose the handle kindling, I produce quite a bit of it. Dragon thanks for the thought. I will get brave enough to send in some of the stuff I do.
Jack

JimSawyer · 02-25-2007, 06:17 AM

I've been wanting to try this one. My Mom would love it, (of course she loves everything I make). I'll be sure to be very careful with my angle.
Is that a coin cutting jig on the left. It looks like you did it differently, with a piece of PVC pipe maybe? Am I right, and did it work?
Thanks for sharing...Share some more....

kindling · 02-26-2007, 09:07 PM

Jim you are correct. I have not tried it yet, as we had gone on a trip over to arizona. I did place a quarter in and it seems to be a good fit, and held so it would cut OK. The angle is the hardest part of the egg. I borrowed a old fashioned angle finder from a friend, and it showed the plastic one I had purchased was off by about 2 degrees. Multiply that by twelve sides and it doesn't fit. I am going to do another one and will post how it comes out.
JackBeaver

Doug-in-the-woods · 02-27-2007, 02:34 PM

I attempted to cut out a section of the egg and THINK I found a problem
the drawing of the egg section pattern Pic4) that one is to apply to the wood after cutting the side profile (pic 3) needs to be longer as I measured the inside of the profile waste piece and it measures 5" not 4 1/4 inches.The pic #4 appears to fit entire length of egg section (5 inches)
This could be a problem aligning the egg sections.
going to re-cut section using drawing I made using Sketchup and see if the egg section comes out better.
Also found that using the waste piece of pic 3 as a steady rest for the section the push stick in pic 6 is not needed.

02-01-2007, 12:18 PM	#5
Dragon scroller and moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chertsey, Quebec, Canada Posts: 2,529	Welcome to the group. Looks like there is extra wood so I think that Bob is right. Extra sanding on all the panels. You have another nice project at the top of your picture. We'd love to see some of your work. Diane __________________ Dragon Owner of a Dewalt 788 PuffityDragon on AFSP

02-01-2007, 12:32 PM	#6
CanadianScroller Moderator CUT IT OUT Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chilliwack British Columbia, Canada Posts: 3,904 Blog Entries: 12	After looking at your photo it seems that the angle of the saw table is slightly less than it should be, If the saw is of by one degree there are a total of 12 sides so the finished object will be off by 12 degrees. That would show up as gaps in the egg. If the angle was larger than it should be then the center of the egg would connect but the outer edges would have gaps. Try checking the angle again Hope this helps __________________ CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net." Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

02-25-2007, 06:17 AM	#8
JimSawyer Laying into Inlay Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lincoln, RI Posts: 1,199	I've been wanting to try this one. My Mom would love it, (of course she loves everything I make). I'll be sure to be very careful with my angle. Is that a coin cutting jig on the left. It looks like you did it differently, with a piece of PVC pipe maybe? Am I right, and did it work? Thanks for sharing...Share some more.... __________________ Jim The limits of the imagination are imaginary. No task is too tedious for Art. Rock and Scroll My Website Featherwood Woodcrafts

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02-01-2007, 01:41 AM	#1
kindling Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 6	Fred & Jean Byers I just subscribed to this fine magazine, even though I had been buying it off the shelf for some time. I fell in love with the egg in issue 26. I have cut it out twice now, and being about as swift as a red brick I can not get the last step to work. I do the #10 instruction and it looks good. When I attempt to do the #11 gluing the two halves together, because of the curved sides there is a huge gap top and bottom. What am I doing wrong. I took a digital picture, but do not know how to put it into the request. Thanks Jack

02-01-2007, 03:31 AM	#2
lucky788scroller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 6,354	Although I cant help you with your project, iD like to welcome you to the group, Im sure someone here will know exactly what your having trouble with.About posting a picture, if you click "post reply" (not quick reply)you will see a button way down under the message window you type in, that says "manage attachments". click on that and a popup window pops up that says select, or search, or upload, or somthing, once you click that, you should get sent to wherever you store your online photos, or saved files, where you right click and select. once selected, you clock upload on that popped up window thingy, and if your picture isnt to big, it will be attached to your message.I wish I knew a better way to splain it, sorry. Dale

02-01-2007, 12:11 PM	#4
BobD Technical Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 3,160 Blog Entries: 2	Hi Jack, It might take some sanding to get it to fit. Depending on your saw, how accurate the angle guide is, and how much wood the spiral blade removes, it takes some final tweaking. Since you eventually round all the sharp corners off, you can usually get away with doing some extra sanding to get things to fit tightly. Best regards, Bob Duncan Technical Editor __________________ www.WoodCarvingIllustrated.com www.FoxChapelPublishing.com www.ScrollSawer.com Shopsmith, Hawk G4

02-01-2007, 10:37 PM	#7
kindling Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 6	Thanks for all your advice. I am going to try again, and will let you all know why I chose the handle kindling, I produce quite a bit of it. Dragon thanks for the thought. I will get brave enough to send in some of the stuff I do. Jack

02-26-2007, 09:07 PM	#9
kindling Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 6	Jim you are correct. I have not tried it yet, as we had gone on a trip over to arizona. I did place a quarter in and it seems to be a good fit, and held so it would cut OK. The angle is the hardest part of the egg. I borrowed a old fashioned angle finder from a friend, and it showed the plastic one I had purchased was off by about 2 degrees. Multiply that by twelve sides and it doesn't fit. I am going to do another one and will post how it comes out. JackBeaver

02-27-2007, 02:34 PM	#10
Doug-in-the-woods Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2	I attempted to cut out a section of the egg and THINK I found a problem the drawing of the egg section pattern Pic4) that one is to apply to the wood after cutting the side profile (pic 3) needs to be longer as I measured the inside of the profile waste piece and it measures 5" not 4 1/4 inches.The pic #4 appears to fit entire length of egg section (5 inches) This could be a problem aligning the egg sections. going to re-cut section using drawing I made using Sketchup and see if the egg section comes out better. Also found that using the waste piece of pic 3 as a steady rest for the section the push stick in pic 6 is not needed.